Wormholes

tl;dr - What makes a Corporation or Alliance "relevant" in a wormhole community?

Please explain the “relevancy” of wormhole organizations. There seems to be a large number of individuals who make note of the “irrelevancy” of particular groups within Anoikis, however it seems to be an odd notion. What dictates relevancy in a community of individuals?

In a wormhole, “comfortable” alliance/corporate size is determined by your individual infrastructure and limited by roles, number of moons, and stuff. Technically, those limits only apply to groups that forego caution and are fine with spies, thieves, and internal strife. Also, economic restrictions inhibit the infinite expansion of an organization without occupying multiple wormholes, or dedicating alternate corporations, or wormholes for expos. That said, your relevancy in the wormhole is limited to your corporation or alliance, or in some odd cases, the various residents in the same wormholes.

That can change ofcourse. Alliances split, evictions occur, coups are staged, and drama inevitably happens. Now, your relevancy is extended to the shards that break apart, only if anyone in the shards is interested in your progression. Sometimes that interest is not friendly in nature and that could lead to conflict, which would mean relevance to those who monitor the wars within Anoikis. Then your relevancy can be dictated by the number of people interested in your stories as you progress in your community.

That aside, we aren’t null sovereignty. We don’t, for the most part, have coalitions. We have friends in some cases, and definitely have many enemies, if you are doing it right. What makes some of the groups in Anoikis feel that they are more “relevant” than other organizations? Is this about being “liked” or “popular”? Is this related to some draw to feel exclusive, cool, or edgy?

Other than the drama/meta aspect leading to some notoriety, it would seem most “relevancy” between members in this community should extend about the lifespan of a wormhole.

This is pretty much it.

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How would you measure the influence of a group in wormholes? If I were to measure each group, there are a ton of relevant groups in our community based on their capacity to influence, and some are quite active. I agree with you about it being on both ends of the spectrum (liked v. disliked).

I think efficiency holds some weight in the opinions of our community (HARK, for example), and I think that forum activity and reputation can be measured in to a degree. I'm sure a ton of the members in our community are probably not fond of the RCC v. VL v. Disavowed stuff, but any publicity can lead to reputation, some of this is being done through the forums, and not always leading to "popularity", but definitely affecting the reputation of those groups.

The increasing number of T3s you can field increases your relevancy!

If I see you and we pew and get some giggles we are both relevant and may seek one another out again.

Relevancy in WHs comes down almost entirely to a combination of public image and PVP activity levels in WHs.
As in, if a corp lives in WH space but doesnt PVP or does all their PVP in kspace then regardless of how good their image and abilities are, theyre not relevant in WH space.

I agree with you about "relevancy" being relative, especially in the wormhole community. Earlier, Axloth basically said that notoriety may serve as a form of relevancy, with Blood Union as the example. I'd venture to say based on my perspective alone, that Obstergo has decent PVP effeciency, expecially for our modest size, and serve more toward the "content creator" group than the "farmer" group. That being said, different people have a different view on what factors determine relevance.

For Example, on our own, the possibility for RCC to evict SSC, KILL, NOHO, or another larger entity is probably close to zero, and for some that would deem our small alliance irrelevant. Axloth also noted a relevant entity's ability to impact others, which I feel would be an important factor to include in a "relevancy" formula. Again, using RCC as the example, we have the ability to engage and fight, and also have the ability to invade and evict. That means that groups we would engage would be impacted by us, similarly to their or other's effect on our alliance in similar circumstances, making others relevant to RCC.

This topic is less on the troll, and as a topic itself, probably irrelevant to most people that play the game. However, this is a computer game forum, I'm bored, and this seems like an interesting enough topic between the "Target: Alliance" and "RCC is Bad" threads.

Assuming you were just referring to social relevance, then it's a matter of opinion whether or not an individual places any meaning to the topic.

Relevance is critical to success in wormholes. I'm not just referring to social relevance, which is what this thread is primarily about, but relevance in terms of "appropriate" or "fitting". Social relevance has it's place in the community and simply being in the "back of [your] minds" doesn't make you relevant.

If you take an armor fleet into a Pulsar and engage a shield fleet, you are ignoring the bonus's, which are very relevant and also meaningful regarding the probable outcome of your engagement. Relevance is meaningful, and sometimes critical.

Social relevance is also meaningful to a degree, as it is the foundation for community building and development. I think you are referring to being "popular" or "notorious", which I would agree is meaningless or even detrimental, if people begin refusing to engage you.

Agreed. I love it when people just bring a fight. I don't give a **** if it's ~the gudfite~ or not.

Was going to use examples from wormhole space to explain relevancy.

then i remembered the big players since my time with SYJ have changed so much i dont think theres any references i can make that youd know...

But yeah, if your going to go in a wormhole, be active, offer fights to the big guys who roll around.

in general BE FUN. no-fun farmers and people who just POS up and hide are GUARANTEED to get evicted.

not sure how much wormhole protocol has changed since i ran with SYJ, but back in the day, even little guys would get defended when they batphoned if they were legitimate pvp groups, even the biggest farming groups were removed, since relevant WH space cares only about your ability to keep everyone from getting bored as ****. pretty nice pvp community.