EVE General Discussion

They can create (and have done so) incentives for people to buy more PLEX and sell them on the market.

They could do this, but depending on the price of plex it could do nothing. The players who bought the plex at the promotion price could just as easily turn around and sell them for the same price as the market is at.

The increase of supply does not automatically decrease the demand and cost.

Everyone has a value for everything. What will cause the price of plex to drop is when people stop buying them at the inflated price... As long as people feel that the value of plex is 500-600 mil then there is no reason for the market to drop even with a inflated supply. True an inflated supply could/would drop the price down, that is only if the people selling the plex are willing on undercutting each other just to make a sale, and if the supply hits a over-saturation point and people will become desperate to make a sale.

I would be fine with seeing plex stay at about 500mil. Personally I feel that it is a reasonable price to pay. I always though that 350-400 mil was a little to low.

Man, so much butthurt for having to log in a casual 1-2days a month for a PLEX
Tired of playing EVE? Go play a free MMO.
Tired of online game commitment? Go play Plants vs Zombies.

Quit running your mouth and move on already. Get off the computer, then.
sheesh.





best part of the post was when the OP actually read up on Incursions, and still resorted to tinfoil antics. could, could, COULD!




and with all the much anticipated 'fixes' this Crucible, i doubt a sharp decline in players numbers in 90 days.

I just want to point out that a subscription-quality MMO that you can play for free with no restrictions, with the only cost being that you have to play it, is a great concept.

As EvE is a free market economy, PLEX prices, like anything else, are subject to fluctuate based on supply and demand. As said before, a new expansion is going to drive demand for game-time up. This is normal, and nothing to fret about. Wait until Crucible wears off, and you should see PLEX return to normal.

If your so upset at having to spend 5-8 hours of almost risk free time earning your 500mil, consider doing something more risky.

There are pve activities that will regularly net you 500m-1bn isk an hour if you step away from high sec

I've mentioned in the old forum that CCP can easily sell PLEX that came from permabanned accounts (or even were confirmed destroyed in combat). The ISK earned from that could be used to trade just like everyone else, so there would still be some form of balance within the game without breaking any major rules.

This originally came to mind when Dr E did not want to disclose how many PLEX were destroyed since that became possible (See this year's Economy Fanfest discussion).

Your post is otherwise spot-on IMO.

As for the OP, while I may have a skewed view of cost in games like this (after throwing approx $2700 into Second Life over 18 months) even I think you're overreacting a bit. If you're really this despondent about the costs I strongly suggest a proper 'vacation' from Eve (i.e. go find a 21-30+ day skill to train and walk away until finished, or just unsub for now). Done this several times now (each time for about a month) and has been a good way to keep me interested.

Are you completely forgetting how NEX items get into the game. You have to purchase Aurum via PLEX or those items do not exist in the game in the first place. The free Aurum will dry up before long, which was just the old marketing 'the first hit is free' mentality from CCP.

Let's look at the NEX moving forward, all items will be purchased via PLEX and you might scoff and say 'no people will buy them from others for ISK', wrong. Why would anyone buy a PLEX to convert it to 3500 Aurum and then buy a NEX item to put on the market when the item would probably sell for 1/10 to 1/5 of the ISK they could get from selling the PLEX directly (500 mil currently). They would be losing ISK.

Now what do you think will happen to PLEX prices once CCP put something that people actually want on a large scale in the NEX, I can guarantee what it won't do and that is make PLEX prices go down. Demand for them will become even higher than we see now.


Yes theories were thrown around at CCP for RMT and guess what they decided on, that's right PLEX. Which they should have been happy with rather than adding this NEX/Aurum garbage.

No the NEX store is much more recent in CCP's thinking and watching presentations by Dr EyjoG it appears more like they have looked at what has been happening in other games, even F2P with microtransactions and decided it was a nice additional money making stream. Only problem for CCP is they overestimated the demand the EVE playerbase would have for clothing.

Tell me why CCP had to layoff 20% of their workforce. Was it because they didn't want to further develop those projects or perhaps because money was starting to get a little tight and also with loan repayments coming up on their due date. CCP needed money and were prepared to do a little extra milking of their playerbase to keep everything in development.

Unless you don't think CCP would do that, because I can give you plenty of examples where other companies have done exactly that through various means.

And if you still don't believe me then do some research where CCP spoke about the NEX items funding other projects with a very small portion of the money going back into EVE development.


The NEX Store should have never been put into EVE in the first place, simple as that. It just reeks of poor decisions and does nothing to benefit the game.

So.... what are you getting at?


Since a vast majority are not buying into Aurum, an over-saturated PLEX market (supply) would mean a decrease in consumer cost (demand)....
How would you explain high PLEX volumes and high PLEX costs when the off-demographic "Sims in Space" was abandoned? I doubt PLEX jumped because of Aurum, especially when one can't even do anything significant/social with clothes.

Something else is the catalyst for the sharp increase.
Incursion's raw isk?
Moon goo?
Ice goo?
Market manipulation?

I was determined to read this whole thread but then I found something better to do. I'll just say this. In RL I make about 15 dollars an hour. I would rather have 1 hour of my RL pay for playing EVE than 5 hours of my in game time.

Its easy to understand for two reasons at least:

- New patch coming, people is returning to the game.
- Promotion of the power of two, people is creating alts and need 3 plexes per.

More plexes sold more plexes are needed, price increase.