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Proper protocol for using another's poco...?
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Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-11-19 17:45:18 UTC
I never dabbled with planetary interaction so if this was answered before, I do apologize.

If I found a set of planets I would not mind harvesting goods from, then is it proper to ask the owners of the floating poco unit before dropping a command center onto the planet?

Cold, harsh, and all that, but I still do have manners.

Thank you.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#2 - 2013-11-19 18:05:53 UTC
You are not expected to ask, especially as they can't stop you. You can try asking for standings to get a lower tax rate, but good luck with that. In lowsec, you might ask the owners to not shoot you if they live in the area, but that's it.

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Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-11-19 19:10:17 UTC
No need to ask. If they have a reasonable tax rate set then they want you to use it. If they don't want people to use it they will set the tax rate to 100%.

So always make sure you check the tax rate before setting up on a planet (need to be in the system and view info on the customs office)
Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-11-21 05:03:15 UTC
Your are more than welcome to use any RvB POCOs, which have reasonable tax rates* - as long as your standings are neutral or better to us. We have several dozens in the forge.

*5% for neutrals, + the NPC tax which we don't control and is skill dependent

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#5 - 2013-11-21 11:20:44 UTC
Just a note:

Complaining about POCO tax rates is a wonderful way to get put on a red list, and have your rate set to 100%.

Smile



Or just complaining about the people that run the POCO. Forum posters who, say, go on 'Grr Goons!' rants, may find themselves with punitive tax rates on Goon run worlds. Got to love consequences Big smile

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Haraukiae Youik
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-11-28 19:15:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Haraukiae Youik
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Just a note:

Complaining about POCO tax rates is a wonderful way to get put on a red list, and have your rate set to 100%.

Smile



Or just complaining about the people that run the POCO. Forum posters who, say, go on 'Grr Goons!' rants, may find themselves with punitive tax rates on Goon run worlds. Got to love consequences Big smile



Sorry, but that seems kind of stupid.

Those aren't consequences.

IRL such THINGS as the GOONS (read: actions by such parties would be penalized and irl there are mechanics to punish such behavior) would be broken up as cartels as such they should be.

CCP should start to realize why the game is not growing. It's NOT the US great depression. (or the decline of Western Civilization either.)

Sry. Forgot:

Have a nice day. Live free and not as slaves. Big smile
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#7 - 2013-11-28 20:07:16 UTC
Pity that capsuleers aren't really citizens of a nation. They control too much for that to be the case. So then you're dealing with nation states. And there, this kind of thing is natural. Trade barriers are erected all over the place.

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Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#8 - 2013-11-28 20:12:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tul Breetai
Use their poco for the posted tax rate. The small and organized will recognize you eventually and try not to gank you. The unorganized will try and gank you.

IF you contact them and they are used to it, they will work a deal with you. If they are not used to it, they will try and scam you. Better to just not contact them.

EDIT: And if you're talking about hisec, they're expecting you to just use it and pay the rate, so just use it and pay the rate.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#9 - 2013-11-29 13:35:04 UTC
Haraukiae Youik wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Just a note:

Complaining about POCO tax rates is a wonderful way to get put on a red list, and have your rate set to 100%.

Smile


Or just complaining about the people that run the POCO. Forum posters who, say, go on 'Grr Goons!' rants, may find themselves with punitive tax rates on Goon run worlds. Got to love consequences Big smile



Sorry, but that seems kind of stupid.

Those aren't consequences.

IRL such THINGS as the GOONS (read: actions by such parties would be penalized and irl there are mechanics to punish such behavior) would be broken up as cartels as such they should be.



Erm.......no.

This is EVE Online we are talking about, are we not ?

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Arosth Katsbalger
Odyssey Corporation
#10 - 2013-11-29 15:41:06 UTC
Free market capitalism works as thus...If the service is worth the cost use it. If it is not...don't. They want to keep high tax rates on POCO's let em. The markets will deal with that. Of course if you are dealing in PI mats for profit that tax rate will get transferred to the consumer. But as the EVE economy works, more times than not, people tend to sell at a loss to undercut the other guy destroying any hope of there ever being a stable economy.
Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-11-29 15:53:23 UTC
Haraukiae Youik wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Just a note:

Complaining about POCO tax rates is a wonderful way to get put on a red list, and have your rate set to 100%.

Smile



Or just complaining about the people that run the POCO. Forum posters who, say, go on 'Grr Goons!' rants, may find themselves with punitive tax rates on Goon run worlds. Got to love consequences Big smile



Sorry, but that seems kind of stupid.

Those aren't consequences.

IRL such THINGS as the GOONS (read: actions by such parties would be penalized and irl there are mechanics to punish such behavior) would be broken up as cartels as such they should be.

CCP should start to realize why the game is not growing. It's NOT the US great depression. (or the decline of Western Civilization either.)

Sry. Forgot:

Have a nice day. Live free and not as slaves. Big smile

Free market, means we are free to refuse service to those we do not like.

Have a nice day, and thank you for choosing GOONSWARM GALACTIC POCO SERVICE for all your POCO needs.

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