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The Rusted Horde Rises

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Dahacai Laguz
Rust Creeps
#21 - 2013-11-28 03:28:59 UTC
In rust we trust!
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-11-28 05:22:04 UTC
Odinfar wrote:
Ertur Adestur wrote:
Yeah, the idea behind this seems great. Very attractive to me, at least.

But call me a nitpicker, superficial or just greedy, but what caught my eye here is... 100% tax rate? What's that about?

Yeah, great idea, buddy. But no.



We are an anarcho-communism.


Looks more like communalism to me.
Odinfar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-11-28 21:39:41 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Odinfar wrote:
Ertur Adestur wrote:
Yeah, the idea behind this seems great. Very attractive to me, at least.

But call me a nitpicker, superficial or just greedy, but what caught my eye here is... 100% tax rate? What's that about?

Yeah, great idea, buddy. But no.



We are an anarcho-communism.


Looks more like communalism to me.


Communalism? I don't think I understand, sir. We follow the basic concepts of an anarcho-communism to include absolute democracy, from each according to their ability, to each according to their need. Our miners and industrialists feed the nation, our warriors defend our workers, and our leaders serve the people. There is no need for one man to control everything and there is no need for a person to horde or steal resources from the many. I don't think that we qualify as a communalism, though I may be wrong.
Dangirdas Bachir
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-11-28 21:42:51 UTC
Odinfar wrote:
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Odinfar wrote:
Ertur Adestur wrote:
Yeah, the idea behind this seems great. Very attractive to me, at least.

But call me a nitpicker, superficial or just greedy, but what caught my eye here is... 100% tax rate? What's that about?

Yeah, great idea, buddy. But no.



We are an anarcho-communism.


Looks more like communalism to me.


Communalism? I don't think I understand, sir. We follow the basic concepts of an anarcho-communism to include absolute democracy, from each according to their ability, to each according to their need. Our miners and industrialists feed the nation, our warriors defend our workers, and our leaders serve the people. There is no need for one man to control everything and there is no need for a person to horde or steal resources from the many. I don't think that we qualify as a communalism, though I may be wrong.

It's called the Rusted Horde ideology!

EVE EVE STARGALACTIC CITY B I T C H

Ophidia Black
Carebear Euthanization LtD
#25 - 2013-12-01 10:34:23 UTC
So, with regards to your great stand against the Order. You are now about 8 billion isk down, where we find ourselves roughly 5 billion isk richer. Are you ready to concede your defeat & admit you cannot stand against us? Or shall we continue this a little longer? Twisted

Official Reimbursement Officer for the New Order. Contact me for reimbursement in game if your barge was unfairly destroyed.

Sofia Roseburn
Verdant Inquiries
#26 - 2013-12-01 12:32:02 UTC
To a true anarcho-communist money is irrelevant.

These guys are just playing at it though, so probably yes.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-12-01 16:53:18 UTC
Odinfar wrote:

Our main system is Alakgur and we have had recent expansions of New Order members into this system. In fact we are currently at war with a sect of New Order dogs that have been station camping miners in Rens and nearby systems. We obviously cannot stand by while they do this. We will make this part of New Eden a hell for these swine.


You're doing a fantastic job so far. Keep it up!

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Odinfar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-12-03 01:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Odinfar
Ophidia Black wrote:
So, with regards to your great stand against the Order. You are now about 8 billion isk down, where we find ourselves roughly 5 billion isk richer. Are you ready to concede your defeat & admit you cannot stand against us? Or shall we continue this a little longer? Twisted



Actually, my reasons for this were simple. You see, I just proved my point. ISK means nothing to us.... ISK is nothing. Your New Order is a corrupt, criminal organization founded on lies and scams. Your CODE is a lie used to steal and murder. You are the lowest form of humanity and time will tell who truly won this war. Battles are won and lost, ISK is earned and spent, truth is eternal. The New Order will fall.... maybe not at my feet. But it will fall. All corruption fades with time.

But to summarize.... I knew I was being scammed. I've lived in New Eden for some time, my dear. I can smell a scam, but now my wallet tells the truth of the New Order and will act as a testament to your dishonesty and corruption. Your very response to me here tells of your corruption. Wars are not won on the battlefield or in checkbooks, they are won in the hearts and minds of the people. And the people will soon turn on you, your CODE, the New Order, and the false savior James. On that day my people will stand up and cheer.
Odinfar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-12-03 01:32:22 UTC
Sofia Roseburn wrote:
To a true anarcho-communist money is irrelevant.

These guys are just playing at it though, so probably yes.



It is irrelevant. It serves its purpose outside our system and it exposes the lies of the corrupt.
Odinfar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-12-03 01:42:22 UTC
Ophidia Black wrote:
So, with regards to your great stand against the Order. You are now about 8 billion isk down, where we find ourselves roughly 5 billion isk richer. Are you ready to concede your defeat & admit you cannot stand against us? Or shall we continue this a little longer? Twisted



Also, madam, this little forum was where I tracked you down in the first place. We declared war on that little **** poor excuse for a New Order sect solely to draw you out. Now the evidence is present and I've proven my lack of desire for ISK. Two things accomplished this round: 1) proved the true nature of my corp (a true anarcho-communism) and 2) to show that the New Order isn't about anything but scamming and griefing. I think that was well worth 10 Billion of the Fiat Currency of the Corrupt Capitalists that led to such criminals as yourselves being created.



https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3795288#post3795288


(OOC: This **** is gonna be fun. New Order definitely didn't fail to deliver. They've created content and given me something to test my RL philosophies against. I honestly love you ladies/gents and can't wait to see how far this experiment goes. Gonna make great anecdotal evidence for my dissertation. See you in game, Black.)
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-12-03 02:02:57 UTC
Odinfar wrote:

Also, madam, this little forum was where I tracked you down in the first place. We declared war on that little **** poor excuse for a New Order sect solely to draw you out. Now the evidence is present and I've proven my lack of desire for ISK. Two things accomplished this round: 1) proved the true nature of my corp (a true anarcho-communism) and 2) to show that the New Order isn't about anything but scamming and griefing. I think that was well worth 10 Billion of the Fiat Currency of the Corrupt Capitalists that led to such criminals as yourselves being created.



https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3795288#post3795288


(OOC: This **** is gonna be fun. New Order definitely didn't fail to deliver. They've created content and given me something to test my RL philosophies against. I honestly love you ladies/gents and can't wait to see how far this experiment goes. Gonna make great anecdotal evidence for my dissertation. See you in game, Black.)


Hey just so you know, crazy guys can just give Ophidia Black isk any time they want. No complicated schemes involving raging while loosing billions in spaceships in a war you declared necessary. Seriously, just "Give Money" and I bet you'll even get a smiley face email from her (especially if its a billion you are giving her).

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Odinfar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-12-03 03:17:17 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Odinfar wrote:

Also, madam, this little forum was where I tracked you down in the first place. We declared war on that little **** poor excuse for a New Order sect solely to draw you out. Now the evidence is present and I've proven my lack of desire for ISK. Two things accomplished this round: 1) proved the true nature of my corp (a true anarcho-communism) and 2) to show that the New Order isn't about anything but scamming and griefing. I think that was well worth 10 Billion of the Fiat Currency of the Corrupt Capitalists that led to such criminals as yourselves being created.



https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3795288#post3795288


(OOC: This **** is gonna be fun. New Order definitely didn't fail to deliver. They've created content and given me something to test my RL philosophies against. I honestly love you ladies/gents and can't wait to see how far this experiment goes. Gonna make great anecdotal evidence for my dissertation. See you in game, Black.)


Hey just so you know, crazy guys can just give Ophidia Black isk any time they want. No complicated schemes involving raging while loosing billions in spaceships in a war you declared necessary. Seriously, just "Give Money" and I bet you'll even get a smiley face email from her (especially if its a billion you are giving her).



Well, I wouldn't say I raged.... actually quite the opposite. I remained in character while letting my experiment play itself out. It has really been fun thus far and you ladies/gents in the New Order are definitely creating some decent content that wasn't around when I first started playing the game back in 2010. Can't have a decent experiment without a contrast for my philosophies. As I see it right now the New Order and its CODE are the polar opposite and perfect contrast to anarcho-communism. You place a segment of the worker class at the bottom of a hierarchy, you have a strong set of rules that are inherently designed to benefit a small segment of the population, you use the capitalist system to scam others, and you force people to purchase permits to operate "freely." All in all, the New Order couldn't be a better contrast to my philosophies and I look forward to seeing how this experiment runs its course.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#33 - 2013-12-03 11:16:24 UTC
Odinfar wrote:
Ertur Adestur wrote:
Yeah, the idea behind this seems great. Very attractive to me, at least.

But call me a nitpicker, superficial or just greedy, but what caught my eye here is... 100% tax rate? What's that about?

Yeah, great idea, buddy. But no.



We are an anarcho-communism.



Oh dear, and I thought the Minmatar were bad.
Someone stop me before I write a letter of apology to my Republican friends.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-12-03 18:59:04 UTC
Odinfar wrote:

That is the vision. True freedom guided not by the overbearing powers above, but by the people. Liberty through unity. We will be what mankind was destined to be.

I give the same advice to all, who wish TRUE FREEDOM, how to achieve it with the fastest way possible.

1. Grab a shuttle
2. Find an indigenous uninhabited planet.
3. Land there
4. Undress yourself, put all your clothes into shuttle
5. Launch shuttle back to the orbit with all your clothes and posessions.
6. Live with the animals, like an animal, enjoying your beloved TRUE freedom.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Cuci Cairi
#35 - 2013-12-03 19:15:36 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Odinfar wrote:

That is the vision. True freedom guided not by the overbearing powers above, but by the people. Liberty through unity. We will be what mankind was destined to be.

I give the same advice to all, who wish TRUE FREEDOM, how to achieve it with the fastest way possible.

1. Grab a shuttle
2. Find an indigenous uninhabited planet.
3. Land there
4. Undress yourself, put all your clothes into shuttle
5. Launch shuttle back to the orbit with all your clothes and posessions.
6. Live with the animals, like an animal, enjoying your beloved TRUE freedom.


Freedom requires a social context in order to have meaning. What you describe is not freedom, but simplicity for its own sake.
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#36 - 2013-12-03 19:29:17 UTC
You tried to build your rebel empire on our ground! You wardecd our agents to murder them while enforcing the law you self accepted when entering new order territory!

You think this is over? Your gang of bot-aspirants is not welcome in New Order territory. Your miners will be bumped on sight until you drop your false believes and pledge your loyalty to our Supreme Protector James 315.

Your ISK and your tears will fuel our efforts to make highsec a better place for months.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-12-03 19:36:15 UTC
Cuci Cairi wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Odinfar wrote:

That is the vision. True freedom guided not by the overbearing powers above, but by the people. Liberty through unity. We will be what mankind was destined to be.

I give the same advice to all, who wish TRUE FREEDOM, how to achieve it with the fastest way possible.

1. Grab a shuttle
2. Find an indigenous uninhabited planet.
3. Land there
4. Undress yourself, put all your clothes into shuttle
5. Launch shuttle back to the orbit with all your clothes and posessions.
6. Live with the animals, like an animal, enjoying your beloved TRUE freedom.


Freedom requires a social context in order to have meaning. What you describe is not freedom, but simplicity for its own sake.


Excuse me, but I referenced to social context as well. I didn't say live alone, but rather "live with animals". This is a proper social environment for someone, addicted to freedom.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Odinfar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2013-12-03 19:53:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Odinfar
Alyth Nerun wrote:
You tried to build your rebel empire on our ground! You wardecd our agents to murder them while enforcing the law you self accepted when entering new order territory!

You think this is over? Your gang of bot-aspirants is not welcome in New Order territory. Your miners will be bumped on sight until you drop your false believes and pledge your loyalty to our Supreme Protector James 315.

Your ISK and your tears will fuel our efforts to make highsec a better place for months.



First a foremost, your law means nothing to me as long as your members "enforce" it through scams and dishonesty.

Second, how are we bot-aspirant? Do you even know what aspirant means? I will not give loyalty to a person that was not given a mandate from the people. He placed himself into his position through unjust means.

Third, my miners don't even operate in highsec on a regular basis. We mine WH space and lowsec, places your weak order is too afraid to operate in. When we are in highsec we fly with large fleets with security and support. Obviously not botting.

As for your last line, I will not shed a tear for a lost ship or ISK. We have better things to worry about than a three man corp of wannabes trying to pretend to be part of something bigger. We have a nation to build. So, though I've enjoyed this distraction between more important things, I'm done with this game and I'm off to more important things. You are a mere nuisance and nothing more than a pesky insect.
Cuci Cairi
#39 - 2013-12-03 20:31:20 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Excuse me, but I referenced to social context as well. I didn't say live alone, but rather "live with animals". This is a proper social environment for someone, addicted to freedom.


You would be hard pressed to make an argument that contact with animals is a social context. They are not capable of the interactions humans perform that are considered "social". If you do however consider animals to be capable of providing social context or a society, then this discussion is pointless as you have no comprehension of the basic terms involved.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-12-03 20:39:35 UTC
Cuci Cairi wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Excuse me, but I referenced to social context as well. I didn't say live alone, but rather "live with animals". This is a proper social environment for someone, addicted to freedom.


You would be hard pressed to make an argument that contact with animals is a social context. They are not capable of the interactions humans perform that are considered "social". If you do however consider animals to be capable of providing social context or a society, then this discussion is pointless as you have no comprehension of the basic terms involved.


"The term social refers to a characteristic of living organisms as applied to populations of humans and other animals. It always refers to the interaction of organisms with other organisms and to their collective co-existence, irrespective of whether they are aware of it or not, and irrespective of whether the interaction is voluntary or involuntary." - excerpt from State-allowed online encyclopedia.

It is not really hard to access that kind of information through any working neocom. Speaking about comprehension of basic terms involved. R-right.

Next time try to press a couple of buttons yourself in the neocom before writing, my profession is to fight gallenteans, not to educate them in basic terms.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.