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Winchester Steele
#41 - 2013-11-27 18:12:44 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
No, you're not going to get an autopilot that is as efficient as flying manually.

No, you're not going to be able to go AFK on autopilot and be immune to being ganked.

Faster travel makes the universe smaller, which we don't need. Indeed, if we need anything it is for travel to be even more dangerous than it is now, so as to keep you from being so bored. Blink

There, problem solved.



Remove Concord. Problem solved.

...

Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-11-27 18:20:59 UTC
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
They should rename autopilot to deathtrap pilot. Indeed a useless game tool.



Perhaps Death Race
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#43 - 2013-11-27 18:30:21 UTC
I use my programming skills to automate stuff all the time.

I do this because when I do it, it does things better and quicker and with less mistakes than manual operation.

So autopilot doing a job that I could program a bot to do instead (hit jump button on system change) and the bot that I programmed would do it better. It's an incorrect game design decision, because those who really care will sit there and manually jump (as I do). So I'm not asking for any safety, I'm asking for autopilot to be an automatic pilot, not an automatic idiot.

As for wanting the game to play itself... is there really a difference here? I've set destination, and all I do is go into the game and press 'jump' every system as opposed to not having to do that. That's the difference here. I'm NOT ACTUALLY PLAYING A GAME. The decisions that make up the gamespace have already been made - I'm going to wherever. That's set. What you're asking me to do is sit there and babysit a game that really doesn't need it with a very small tweak. Once the decision is made, why can't I have a computer (my gosh, we've invented those in real life that work better!) do the grunt work of pressing 'jump' every system change? Is that really too much to ask in a computer game?

What you appear to be missing is where the 'fun' is in EVE. I'm guessing, pressing the 'jump' button 15 times isn't fun for most people. Why are you so opposed to ditching that?
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#44 - 2013-11-27 18:34:39 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:
I use my programming skills to automate stuff all the time.
And now we have drones and robot soldiers, so I guess all shooters should come with autoaim?

Jythier Smith wrote:
As for wanting the game to play itself... is there really a difference here?
It's a big enough difference that it's gotten you onto the forums whining about it.

Jythier Smith wrote:
What you appear to be missing is where the 'fun' is in EVE.
"If you want a game which is nothing but instant gratification 110% of the time, I suggest Call of Duty."

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Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#45 - 2013-11-27 18:38:40 UTC
I just participate on the forums and chimed in on a thread that someone else started. I didn't come here to whine about autopilot, but since it was brought up, I had some thoughts to kick in.

I'm sorry you want your entertainment to suck.

If you want a game that makes you babysit it while a predetermined outcome occurs, I suggest Candyland.
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#46 - 2013-11-27 18:41:36 UTC
Draw a card... one yellow... move ahead to yellow... draw a card... one yellow... move ahead to yellow.

I guess Candyland might be too exciting for you, because you don't know what color you're going to draw next. So traveling in EVE is more like playing Candyland with all the cards face up.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#47 - 2013-11-27 18:42:50 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:
I'm sorry you want your entertainment to suck.
So EVE sucks then?

In that case, can I have your stuff?

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Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#48 - 2013-11-27 18:46:24 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
I'm sorry you want your entertainment to suck.
So EVE sucks then?

In that case, can I have your stuff?


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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#49 - 2013-11-27 18:49:34 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
I'm sorry you want your entertainment to suck.
So EVE sucks then?

In that case, can I have your stuff?


Contract sent.

Stuff gratefully received.

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Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-11-27 18:52:14 UTC
If you use AP at all then it is you who are broken, not the game.Arrow
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#51 - 2013-11-27 18:53:08 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
I'm sorry you want your entertainment to suck.
So EVE sucks then?

In that case, can I have your stuff?


Contract sent.

Stuff gratefully received.


... will you play Candyland with me?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#52 - 2013-11-27 18:54:30 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
If you use AP at all then it is you who are broken, not the game.Arrow

If you don't understand the tool that is the AP — what it can do, what it could do but shouldn't, and what it can't do — you're broken. Not using the AP is about as bad an idea as relying on it.
Hiryu Jin
noXCorp
#53 - 2013-11-27 19:19:10 UTC
damn I remember when there was no warp-to-zero and everyone had to slowboat to gates or create/buy bm's for every gate. Now you want it to be even easier. Maybe in a few more patches, there will be so much automation, you won't even have to login anymore.
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#54 - 2013-11-27 19:28:55 UTC
Hiryu Jin wrote:
damn I remember when there was no warp-to-zero and everyone had to slowboat to gates or create/buy bm's for every gate. Now you want it to be even easier. Maybe in a few more patches, there will be so much automation, you won't even have to login anymore.


Technically, I don't have to log in now.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#55 - 2013-11-27 19:31:21 UTC

Autopilot is like Abortion

Better to have it and not need it than need it and



NOT HAVE IT

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#56 - 2013-11-27 19:31:53 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:

Autopilot is like Abortion

Better to have it and not need it than need it and



NOT HAVE IT


No it isn't.
Hiryu Jin
noXCorp
#57 - 2013-11-27 19:33:04 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:
Hiryu Jin wrote:
damn I remember when there was no warp-to-zero and everyone had to slowboat to gates or create/buy bm's for every gate. Now you want it to be even easier. Maybe in a few more patches, there will be so much automation, you won't even have to login anymore.


Technically, I don't have to log in now.

I think you should take advantage of that feature immediately.
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#58 - 2013-11-27 19:33:07 UTC
Hiryu Jin wrote:
damn I remember when there was no warp-to-zero and everyone had to slowboat to gates or create/buy bm's for every gate. Now you want it to be even easier. Maybe in a few more patches, there will be so much automation, you won't even have to login anymore.


It's almost as if they decided something was not very entertaining (bookmarking all gates) and fixed it.

I wonder if they'll do that with any other part of EVE.
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#59 - 2013-11-27 19:33:55 UTC
Hiryu Jin wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
Hiryu Jin wrote:
damn I remember when there was no warp-to-zero and everyone had to slowboat to gates or create/buy bm's for every gate. Now you want it to be even easier. Maybe in a few more patches, there will be so much automation, you won't even have to login anymore.


Technically, I don't have to log in now.

I think you should take advantage of that feature immediately.


Naw, I enjoy EVE, so I think I'll keep playing, but thanks for the alternative suggestion.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#60 - 2013-11-27 19:34:00 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:


No it isn't.



OH yes it is

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann