Missions & Complexes

Ah... very interesting. I was wondering why I got kicked from the ICU public channel last night. Will have to check the new channel out.

Thanks for this info and a most useful thread, Goldiiee.

Hello i'm reading trough the thread , but have a few questions sorry if they were asked , prbably they were but im still reading , maybe meanwhile someone can point me right into the right direction :)

I want to try incursions , i'm a good legion Pilot , afaik they're good for vanguards .
Where should i start ? Which channel ? Who would accept a legion pilot .
Would like to get into some of these communities , but there are plenty , would like to avoid drama and useless problems . Also would like a trustworthy group .

thank you in advance .

edit : I can fly also a Nightmare , but it needs polishing , i can fit it well . Just need some more skills to be perfect .

thank you for you're reply will start looking into those .
Yes im limited greatly in amarr ships , but i have also shield skills .

didnt want to risk the ships with a bad group :)

*Snip* Removed reply to a deleted post. ISD Ezwal.

DIN hates ISN because we contest them; it has nothing to do with the nationality of the leaders and a few of its members. ISN hates DIN because they react to contests in an inconvenient manner, one we (ISN) taught them; if you can’t win kill the MOM.

The rest is just fallout from the constant back and forth of perceived control of a game feature, there’s nothing more to it than that.

I ran logi in incursions for a couple of months. If you're with a reputable group, chances of loss are small, but not nil. I was never in a fleet that experienced a loss, but I was only in fleets for maybe 10 hours a week, and there were losses that occasionally happened while I wasn't around. Like you, I wasn't wild about flying super-shiny. I picked up the faction Tracking Links, but I only ran them a couple of times in particularly shiny fleets. Most of the time I stuck to T2, and I was never turned away because of it. I also never picked up the half-billion complex Invuln. Never had any trouble. Of course, different communities will have different standards.

(Edit: Also, some communities have SRPs that you can look into. Though that seems to be a controversial subject.)

It might be important to note that 90% or more of ships lost in Incursions is the pilots fault. Fleet Logi’s have one task, watch for broadcast and keep everyone alive, usually when a ship is lost it is due to the pilot failing to broadcast for Shield/Armor before it was too late to save him. Basically when the rats go to flashing Yellow you should broadcast for shield, about 2 to 5 seconds later the logis should have you locked up and applying reps, if not broadcast again and call out on comms. If they still aren’t locking you up and repping you by then it is too late and the group you’re flying with will help to replace your ship, since you did everything correct and still died.

The problem comes in when a pilot decides to go take a smoke break, grab a meal, or watch the latest episode of Big Bang theory while in a fleet and fail to broadcast for shield till he is in Armor/Structure. When nobody offers to replace the ship he lost, because he actually wasn’t playing the game (or paying attention) when he lost it, the pilot gets upset. That is the only time I would foresee the entire burden of replacement on the Pilot.

One last thing, I had a Basi Logi lose his ship in fleet about a year ago, he lost 400mil and the fleet donated to help him replace it, the ‘post fleet’ discussion led me to believe we donated about 800mil to him, (19 pilots at 20 to 100 mil each) I am sure he was happy.

Wow, this thread is a great resource for Incursions newbies like me. I have read through the whole thing. Thank you, Goldiiee, for starting it.

I went to the Valhalla Project channel about four hours ago and asked for some fitting and overview advice. There were some very gracious people there who helped a lot. I then joined every Incursions channel I could find (a lot were inactive), and I have been waiting ever since. I mean, yipes, over a three hour wait for a fleet? It seems there are a lot of people in these chats who are much more skilled (and better fitted) than I am, and even THEY are not getting into any fleets. Running Incursions in this form just doesn't seem remotely viable. Does anyone have any tips for getting in a fleet? Perhaps there's something I'm missing?

Thanks!

You will die if you warp into the wrong site or do something stupid, but if you are honest to the FC, pay attention and he is ok(in general every bigger Channel got a minimum standard for FCs, so it shouldn't be a problem) the risk of losing your ship is rather low and you might get a refund form a SRF(ship replacement found) or individual fleet members if you lose it. As a FC I never lost a single hull in VGs(with tons of worst case scenarios, to be fair only because I FC from a logi or RR fitted marauder, what gives me a lot more options to prevent ship loses). The only losses in Assault+ where all not fitted up for the task(massive resistance holes), form people that didn't bring the setup they advertised to the fleet(if you chose to fly this way advertise as this, so the FC can chose if he is ok with it or not).



The big shield channels have very long wait lists(imagine a factory with 100 people waiting on the door for her chance to work -> everybody waits for the line in TVP), if you look at smaller ones or armor channels like TDF the wait lists are often a lot shorter. However the flip side of the medal is that you need a lot of dedication if you want to take part full time in the smaller, more focused channels(skill up what they want, change fittings, bring multiple ship types etc.) but you can be on grid nearly every time, especially if you can fill a lot of roles(logi, dps, booster, T3, web ship etc.) and got a lot of ships to chose from ready to go.

Hi there!

I'm trying to create an Spanish Speaking Incursion Fleet, as in my corp we've grown recently and there seems to be a unified purpose of bashing the Shansa and making isk at the same time

If you're interested, we'd like to form fleet at 21:00 eve time regularly (as most of us play in EU TZ) till 23:00 eve time, but we'll extend the time as we grow in people (and TZ) and coordinate ourselves.

Please contact me in-game and/or join the in-game channel IncursionES.

We've not yet decided about shields or armor, but we'd like to adhere to an stablished incursion community that would like to accept us, as a semi-independen fleet, with its own FC's but following their rules. We'll learn and teach that community's policies and fittings too. Suggestions are welcome, we're eager to learn and grow.

This week we'll start with a training fleet for new players, and then we'll decide if we go armor or shields (maybe both), after talking with some FC's of know communities and interested people.

Regards

Thanks for the help.

I've added an ingame mailing list IncursionES, that'll help while we're working on our website incursion.es