Science & Industry

Are biofuels in demand and selling for a good price?

Then maybe look for a PI product that sells for a higher value? Biofuels sell around 120 ISK/unit in my region, definitely well on the low end of P1 products. Even water sells higher.

To make good money on PI you need to do the homework. What sells for a good value, what's in demand, that kind of thing.

use eve uni price analysis http://util.eveuniversity.org/PiBear/ and https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar_YTOcXpvb9dGFIdHJlb0VmYXBORWRrcXFkeHNjcWc#gid=10

Biofuels are pretty low value.

One option is to combine them with precious metals to make Biocells. Those are used to make some more items like neocoms and transcranial microcontrollers.

I would recommend moving into making parts for fuel blocks - since there is an infinite need for that stuff. And since folks use huge quantities of T2 missiles/rockets/torpedoes, then I'd say that rocket fuel is also something useful to sell.

flow charts of things you can make:
http://www.hst-soft.de/korai/Eve_PI_Diagrams_v1_4.pdf

You mentioned "low sec". Plasma planets tend to be overused, but enriched uranium is probably one of the harder items to get sufficient quantities for highsec industrialists. I suspect that if you swapped your PI chain around to just make enriched uranium, you should make a lot more income.

Lets you plan your survey trips by telling you what planets are in what systems and what the diameters of the planets are:
http://eveplanets.com/

So you embarked on a commercial endeavour without doing any research on what the expected returns were, whether you could sell the product at all or what profits you can expect, then complain about having to abandon it and re-do things?

What did you expect, that common, abundant resources would sell for a large amount? Surely the ease of obtaining it would suggest that it's not going to be worth much?

If you're not willing to do the research and market investigation, I would suggest that you stay away from industry in general, PI and all other forms. They all require work on your part to make profitable. If you want 'push button, get ISK' with no other effort, maybe try missions?

You could build Guidance Systems they sell pretty well at the moment because of rubicon...
As others have mentioned, biofuels are not worth anything, because they are easy to produce. If you want money build the highest level PI product, from scratch (i would not recommend importing from the markets) you can manage with your current skills, and sell that.

And read the PI guide on Evelopedia, it helped me, and i am currently making around 60 mil a week from 6 planets in the same low sec system, with one toon. :)

If you did some research on either PI or manufacturing I think you would re-define your definition of 'quite a lot of money'

Yes ammo and drones always make some sort of profit but they take ages to build for the amount of return you see. You could build a single decent large rig in an hour and it would net you more profit than 10 manufacturing slots running cheap crap all day. T1 Ammodrones industry is only for getting used to the idea of industry or for missioners who make their own stuff on the side.

No real industrialist makes those.

So lets see if i get this right.

You are not doing your homework, and are surpissed that you only get a F?

Really? :)



Just placing a Command Center on a planet, build something, and selling it without any work what you are doing and how good it is will result in some minor success.


If you want more money, do your homework.
Check what sell better.

Damn this posts made me rly laugh today. It's like your plan was like this:
- do some manufacturing. Searching for maximum profit. Tries ammo
- next do some PI. Go to the best planet. Makes Biofuels
- Next?

Maybe try building sub-cap ships next.

I've tried making frigates with a basic blueprint but you spend over half their sell price on materials and their doesn't seem much point in going up any higher since the cost of blueprints increase rapidly while I doubt the profit margin improves very much.

I truth I find very little profit with industry, you just don't seem to make that much profit on it considering the costs you have to put in. And there are no other ways of getting good amounts of money apart from grinding out level 4 security missions day after day.

And I've spent most of my money on getting and fitting a tengu that most people I've shown the fitting at is terrible.