EVE General Discussion

we're already getting a badge. its a Sisters of Eve Food Relief shirt, which is awesome.

Please biomass yourself and never ever post again. You looking for recognition is sickening.. Thats not helping people in need neither is your little crusade to getting CCP to even do this from the beginning..

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PLEX for good is a great way for people to donate that don't necessarily have the spare cash to do so, and CCP are already saying "Thank you for your donation" by creating the SOE Tshirts for your characters... so I don't necessarily see the need for a badge as well.

That being said, giving a sign of recognition for donations or aid to charity is a precedent that has long been set.

So the question is, at what point did we decide that saying "Thank you for your donation" (which is all a virtual Tshirt or badge actually is) is somehow wrong or devalues the contribution that was made.

If you asked a person that receives aid through this method "Do you realize that some of this money only was contributed because some Icelandic company gave away a pixel Tshirt with each donation?" do you really think any of them would object?

Not on your life!

In fact their gratitude would be split between those that contributed and the company that actively solicited to maximize those contributions. The end result is even more money is generated to help those that desperately need it.

It is that end result that is important. Not the motivations behind the donation, or any feeling of moral superiority people might aspire to for not needing said acknowledgement.

There is nothing wrong with saying thank you, especially when the company organizing the event is covering the "cost" of creating the thank you gift.

Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with feeling proud you donated... whether you got some sort of acknowledgement for the donation or not.

Insinuating that a person should not feel proud of their act if they get a thank you in exchange is wrong headed in the extreme, and suggesting that such incentives should be removed is in fact putting your own personal taste ABOVE the vastly more important issue at hand... aid to those in desperate need.

I don't care if they have CCP Guard put on something sexy and perform a lap dance for each donation, as long as it brings in more donations.

More importantly, the people receiving the aid don't care either.

No.

This is a game, not a civic service club or a humanitarian aid organization.

You want "danglies" and awards, then join any number of civic organization with an awards system in place to pat each other on the bum every time they get a warm fuzzy feeling about sending a bag of powdered milk to "Wherever".

People are all too eager just to throw "money" at a charity or disaster. Try joining one, rolling up your sleeves and making an effort. I'm sure, that in many places, there's a soup kitchen or old folks home or homeless shelter nearby that could use an extra set of hands that are otherwise punching out "F1, F2, F3...." all day long.

There's a difference between receiving thanks, and asking for it.

To be fair, the Done Vida bracelets are nice, because they might possibly get someone to ask what they are, and it's nice to get the other recognition from organ donation (in the sense that it's nice knowing that the organs helpedpeople).

As for the thread, if people get something for donating then oh well. Companies and those who make larger sums of money get tax breaks from donating, so it's not exactly without precedent, and in this case a badge (or the t-shirt we're already getting) isn't even a monetary benefit.

However, asking for something in return for donating is ******.


Basically, if you get stuff for donating, you shouldn't be made to feel bad for displaying it (e.g. by wearing a t-shirt, in real life or in EVE). At the same time, you shouldn't EXPECT things in return for donating.

Also, funnily enough, if people didn't get something out of charity, they wouldn't do it. Altrusim makes us feel better, and anyone who says "I donate out my ideological duty!" is over simplifying the underlying reasons as to their behavior.

I'm POSITIVE they have lots of meetings. How else can they turn someone's pain and sickness into a paycheck for themselves?

Wanna buy some blank yellow t-shirts to print your "charities" logo on it? I have lots for sale super cheap becauase it's a "good cause".