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Ships, places for solo gatecamping
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Darth Destroyer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-11-25 11:26:04 UTC
Hello guys!

I have some SP, around 10 million, so it is time to change from frigate solo PVP to solo camping or something.

Can you give me some advice about what ships are good for that if I would like to camp a 0.4 system, so I need to tank the gate guns too. Can a cruiser survive that, or I have to think in battlecruisers?

I use to roam in 0.0, but it's really empty, especially in late evenings when I have time to play, so can you advice some nice places where I can find bigger traffic? I used to go there with frigate. I found a place at Paala - Etherium-Reach-LXQ2-T gate, so I need something like this.

My most skills are invested in Gallente ships, cause I would like to train for the gallente cov-ops bomber. Is it possible to roam alone and kill bigger ships with a nice trained bomber?

Thank you for answers.
Inquisitor Ageri
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-11-25 12:08:41 UTC
If you want to do low-sec gate camping, then you will need to join a low-sec pirate corp. You need logistics ships in order to tank gate guns, and tbh if you are solo then you will likely meet a pirate gang anyway and get destroyed. If you want to hunt solo in low-sec (away from gates) then a stealth bomber is an excellent choice. Hunt down exploration ships or head into faction warfare territory and hunt people running complexes. But you will not be able to camp a low-sec system effectively on your own on a gate that has any decent traffic. Look into a pirate corp, like I said, and see what the requirements for joining are (they usually have a minimum SP limit of around 15-20 million SP, but you may find one willing to take a 10 million SP player like yourself).
Darth Destroyer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-11-25 12:15:03 UTC
Thank you. I prefer solo play.
Inquisitor Ageri
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-11-25 12:22:48 UTC
Darth Destroyer wrote:
Thank you. I prefer solo play.


Well, then I would aim first for a stealth bomber for hunting ships in complexes. Use faction torpedoes for their smaller explosion radius (meaning they can hit smaller ships like frigates). Eventually, you may want to work your way up to one of the attack battlecruisers like the Oracle/Naga/Tornado/Talos. They can give you the ability to hit from range and maybe get some industrial ships coming through gates on some of the systems with less traffic. Gate guns have a maximum range of 150km I think, so if you could get decent range and alpha damage balance, you could snipe on a gate as long as you pick your targets carefully.
Zen Pouh
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-11-25 12:28:32 UTC
If I want pew pew in PVP mode, I go FW. So called pirates or gate campers are loosers, who enjoy killing unprepeared ships in primitiv Dark Orbit way. If you want a good fight - go FW, if you want feel better cause you killed player, who do not want to fight - I pity you.
Darth Destroyer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-11-25 12:31:03 UTC
Can a stealth bomber kill solo a Battleship too? Or that is too hard for alone?
I can kill frigates with frigates, so I'd like to aim for some bigger targets.

My idea is to bring a stealth bomber to 0.0 with a player depot, so I can refit in space, scan out someone, then refit, kill.
Darth Destroyer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-11-25 12:33:24 UTC
Zen Pouh wrote:
If I want pew pew in PVP mode, I go FW. So called pirates or gate campers are loosers, who enjoy killing unprepeared ships in primitiv Dark Orbit way. If you want a good fight - go FW, if you want feel better cause you killed player, who do not want to fight - I pity you.


I play solo frigate PVP in FW systems and in 0.0 for nearly a half year now.

I don't care who wants to PVP or not. I like to kill. Anyway, killing innocents / ppl who don't want PVP is not easy.
Inquisitor Ageri
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-11-25 12:41:08 UTC
Darth Destroyer wrote:
Can a stealth bomber kill solo a Battleship too? Or that is too hard for alone?


Stealth bombers can kill much bigger targets, yes. But as for a properly fitted battleship, no not even with very good stealth bomber skills. You will need to pick your targets very carefully if you are aiming to hunt in null sec. Make sure you can get in and take out your target quickly as they will be likely to have friends nearby. Null sec targets will likely either be in a fleet or in a pos, so ultimately you may have much better luck soloing in low sec.
Major Trant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-11-25 13:03:28 UTC
A Stealth Bomber is a terrible solo PvP ship. It cannot tank gate guns. It gets slaughtered by anything small. You ask is a BS too big??? A BS is just about big enough for it's torpedoes, but even then the drones are going to cause you problems. Learn to PvP and stay away from SBs for now, it is just going to be an expensive loss mail.

You need to learn to PvP, Frigate PvP in FW plexes is the place to do that. You say you have been doing that for 6 months? Your questions are not consistent with someone who has been PvPing for 6 months. How many kills and losses have you experienced in that time?
Darth Destroyer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-11-25 13:47:42 UTC
Major Trant wrote:
A Stealth Bomber is a terrible solo PvP ship. It cannot tank gate guns. It gets slaughtered by anything small. You ask is a BS too big??? A BS is just about big enough for it's torpedoes, but even then the drones are going to cause you problems. Learn to PvP and stay away from SBs for now, it is just going to be an expensive loss mail.

You need to learn to PvP, Frigate PvP in FW plexes is the place to do that. You say you have been doing that for 6 months? Your questions are not consistent with someone who has been PvPing for 6 months. How many kills and losses have you experienced in that time?


About 40 kill / 110 loss.
I don't have too much time to play. Mostly in late evenings.

What questions were not consistent?
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#11 - 2013-11-25 16:10:46 UTC
Darth Destroyer wrote:
Hello guys!

I have some SP, around 10 million, so it is time to change from frigate solo PVP to solo camping or something.

Can you give me some advice about what ships are good for that if I would like to camp a 0.4 system, so I need to tank the gate guns too. Can a cruiser survive that, or I have to think in battlecruisers?

I use to roam in 0.0, but it's really empty, especially in late evenings when I have time to play, so can you advice some nice places where I can find bigger traffic? I used to go there with frigate. I found a place at Paala - Etherium-Reach-LXQ2-T gate, so I need something like this.

My most skills are invested in Gallente ships, cause I would like to train for the gallente cov-ops bomber. Is it possible to roam alone and kill bigger ships with a nice trained bomber?

Thank you for answers.


The key to solo pvp is target selection. In lowsec, if you are you have gate guns and when you're solo you have a need to be tackle so small ships are out. Conversely any bc will do although some are better then others. The problem with being truly solo on a low sec gate camp is your inability to know what is on the otherside of the gate and coming through. Its why many "solo" pvper's actually have cloaky alt-eyes on the other side of the gate watching for them so that they know when to wake up (as gate camping can be tedious) or to gtfo if need be. I used to lowsec camp a gate in a drake hunting haulers for their soft-juicy middles, when they became wise to my ways, i moved on to a hic. Now, I generally did not go for combat ships on the gate, but would observe them to see what they would do - if they were plexing or running a mission I would, probe them out and get them at the site, otherwise you have to decide if you can take them with gate or station guns.

As for Gallente ships, Kil2 who is now a ccp dev, has some videos in the bringing solo back series of him running wild solo in Talos. Its supposed to be an amazing ship, but I have no first hand knowledge of it.

Solo bombers can be done, but again its a question of target selection. There arent many folk running plexs and the like in null/low with ships that can be easily soloed by sb's, but it can be done.

Finally, as for where to go, - that is a question you will have to answer for yourself. Look at the map and see where folk are - then explore.

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Keno Skir
#12 - 2013-11-25 16:56:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
Zen Pouh wrote:
If I want pew pew in PVP mode, I go FW. So called pirates or gate campers are loosers, who enjoy killing unprepeared ships in primitiv Dark Orbit way. If you want a good fight - go FW, if you want feel better cause you killed player, who do not want to fight - I pity you.


The fact that lowsec is dangerous to industrial traffic is responsible for a whole lot of peoples profit margins. The only way indys get caught in lowsec is at gates. If everyone thought like you and nobody camped gates then every player would travel in an indy so as not the get killed when in lowsec. Also it would be so easy for even new players to move ships and loot in and out of lowsec that it would affect the profitability of lowsec adversely.

Just another "anyone who doesn't play like me is doin it wrong" guy i guesse.. Think harder before opening mouth.

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Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#13 - 2013-11-25 17:08:37 UTC
Darth Destroyer wrote:
Can a stealth bomber kill solo a Battleship too? Or that is too hard for alone?
I can kill frigates with frigates, so I'd like to aim for some bigger targets.

My idea is to bring a stealth bomber to 0.0 with a player depot, so I can refit in space, scan out someone, then refit, kill.


http://eve-search.com/thread/1202308/page/all

This link is old and there has been a whole lot of ship changes in between the time it was written and now - but the principals are still sound. Solo Sb is all about target selection.

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#14 - 2013-11-25 17:19:38 UTC
Zen Pouh wrote:
If I want pew pew in PVP mode, I go FW. So called pirates or gate campers are loosers, who enjoy killing unprepeared ships in primitiv Dark Orbit way. If you want a good fight - go FW, if you want feel better cause you killed player, who do not want to fight - I pity you.



This is a nonsense sentiment. Most ship fights are pre-determined. Target selection, fittings and gang composition are the primary determinates of combat success. Hence, there really is no such thing as a "gud fight," where the other guy has an equal chance of killing you and you only get by on your "leet skilzs." Rather, you win or lose most fights because of the decisions you make that lead up to the fight. More importantly, the fun in eve is that it is an open world pvp game. As a hauler pilot, the rush you get in sneaking by a gate camp, is knowing that you put one over on them even though you are largely harmless. If there wasnt a chance of death, there would be no rush. Similarly, the rush the combat pilot gets is the satisfaction of the hunt. Both pilots lose any sense of accomplishment when the possibility of death is removed. By going to null/low you implicitly agree that you will accept that death is a possibility that is rewarding to both the target and the shooter. If you dont like it, dont go to low/null.

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
voetius
Grundrisse
#15 - 2013-11-25 17:26:13 UTC

Dammit Vol, I was just about to post that link to the Solo Stealth Bomber. Last time I read that thread the guy had notched up 100+ kills in one. It's a bit dated now w.r.t. ship fits etc but most of it holds true.

Also OP the new inties are pretty awesome with their bubble immunity.

I like to do killboard research when things are quiet and look for people that are doing interesting and unusual things, so yes there are people solo camping in low and null that have some impressive kill records, one low sec camping in a cruiser^^. I'll have a dig around and mail some links to you (just be patient, it may take me a day or two but will try to get something done quicker).
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#16 - 2013-11-27 00:42:35 UTC
The key to solo PVP IMO is being underestimated.

I have had better luck in a Vexor than in anything else, because nothing screams 'I'm a rookie, come get a free killmail' like a tech 1 cruiser in lowsec alone. By the time the mark realises they are wrong, they are warp scrambled, dual webbed and taking heavy damage from tech 2 drones supported by Drone Interfacing 5 and overheated tech 2 blasters. I'm happy to take on two ships at once myself with that setup.

If the mark doesn't have allies within one jump, you'll get them. If they have two or more allies within 1j, you will end up with a cheap lossmail.

However, you can't tank gate guns with this setup at all. You will struggle even to kill an AFK cruiser on a gate without warping out - anyone that will fight back is impossible to kill under gate gun fire solo. You want to warp from anomoly to anomoly, and check asteroid belts too. If you have a scanning alt in system, even better.

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