Missions & Complexes

So, I've been doing missions in my Dom and Abaddon mostly, and the strategy for both is fairly cutout. The Dom jumps in, MJDs out, and drops sentries (which apparently Rubicon nerfed but they still seem ridiculous to me?) and MJDS back in, while the Baddon just facetanks everything while slowly burning to the next gate, which is a lot more fun. However, as I've got enough money and maxed out drone skills to consider the Navy Geddon, I started browsing fits. Most of the fits don't have an MJD but instead of an AB and occasionally a MWD.

How exactly does that work? I tried using five Gardes and a AB with a hyperion rail setup but what I found was if I didn't keep burning off at transversal not only could I not hit much with the rails but I would have to keep scooping and dropping the sentries. This seems extremely inefficient, as I'm often burning away from the gate, and I'm sure that's not what people do with gunboat/sentry hybrid ships. I wonder if I'll have the same problem with the Navy Geddon - rats will be on top of me fairly quickly and the sentries will start missing (of course missions like WC or Blockade will involve long distances and thus no real issue). I'm guessing lacking the T2 Pulses and Scorch is the real issue, because with that I have damage projection with the sentries and when things get close I can switch to Multifreq and blap frigs/cruisers and if need be switch to Hobgobs. I hope this isn't a case where T2 pulses are essential because I'm going crazy playing the pure sentry Dom and my skills stil don't make the Baddon efficient (plus it's wasting my maxed out drone skills not to be using sentries at all.)

Thoughts? Cheers.

Probably old fits from before LMJD came out.

Thanks for the replies guys.

I hear pretty good things about the rattlesnake but it's not really my cup of tea. With my Amarr training and drones I'm going to take the geddon out for a spin. I'll try running it with an MJD and with an AB, see which is more efficient. Of course I could use both but that would waste a valuable mid slot. I have a feeling that lacking T2 pulses is going to be a pain, but I'm only about a month and a half away, so it's not so bad.

How's this for a fit?

7 Mega Modulated Pulses (Switch to beams in certain missions with far spawns)
1 DLA t2

MJD or AB
Heavy Electrochemical Cap Booster 800
TC t2
TC t2

LAR t2
Heat Sink t2
Heat Sink t2
DDA t2
Armor Thermic t2
Armor EM t2
Armor EM t2
EANM Hardener t2

5 sentries
5 hobgobs

The mwd limitation was removed a while ago, so unless theres some bugged ones still around it shouldnt be an issue.

There are 2-3 missions where the extra tank on the rattlesnake is nice, but over all the rattlesnake seems like a downgrade/sidegrade compared to the domi.

You give up the range/tracking bonus for more tank, unless you are having problems with tanking there is no reason to go for the rattlesnake, and if you have problems tanking level 4 missions you are doing something wrong.

i just made a fast navy geddon fit which i would use in missions, it is pretty skill hungry.

[Armageddon Navy Issue, mjd mission]

7x Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I (Imperial Navy Multifrequency L)

Large Micro Jump Drive
2x Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 800)

Signal Amplifier II
Large Armor Repairer II
Reactor Control Unit II
Energized EM Membrane II
Energized Thermic Membrane II
3x Heat Sink II

Large Ancillary Current Router I
2x Large Auxiliary Nano Pump II

5x Warden II
3x Warden II

7x Imperial Navy Ultraviolet L
7x Imperial Navy Infrared L

i think dla means no dda, and yes i look at them abit into support dps. also those omnis might be replaced with tracking computers but i thought the help of tracking in the drones is great. Ofcourse you can also fit a domi which would be like

[Dominix, armor miss]

3x Drone Link Augmentor II
3x 1200mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery I

Large Micro Jump Drive
3x Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Heavy Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 800)

Large Armor Repairer II
Energized Thermic Membrane II
Energized EM Membrane II
Signal Amplifier II
3x Drone Damage Amplifier II

2x Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Ancillary Current Router I

5x Garde II
5x Warden II

The dominix has sufficient tracking that you can just stand at the beacon and win. All you do is shoot frigates first, and it will then reliably track everything else with garde IIs. That -mostly- works from a geddon but you'll occasionally need to flip to a set of lights to clear out one or two frigates that get underneath it. In either case its simply shoot frigates, shoot cruisers, shoot battleships in that order, and clean up frigates as you move to the gate.

I have no real idea why people MJD - dominix delivers over 1000 dps from the beacon when its using antimatter from guns to targets at 30km (ie where most of them spawn), and moving away doesn't give you more dps.

The hyper gets a little fussy about tracking, I usually use 1 omni, 1 tracking computer and a T2 hybrid tracking rig (which isn't particularly expensive). To free up midslots on the hyper to fix tracking issues, its best to use a cap booster to run the tank.

to say it with the words of homer j simpson D'oh. Yeah i forgot to throw the one Drone Link in there and i didnt get that DLA did stand for the drone link augmentor. But if fitted u need a +5% CPU if using a black eagle or a +6% for t2

the thing is he should use deadspace plates then, because all active resistence modules eat to much cap in my experience