EVE General Discussion

Umm... Interceptor?

Nullified (immune to bubbles)
Difficult to lock fast (tiny signature)
Warps super quick (new Rubicon changes to warp speeds)


Cheap way of getting to places

I agree with much that has been said here. You cannot avoid PVP, but you CAN avoid gate camps, mostly because there are several ways to spot them beforehand. The in-game map has many useful features.

Using the Dotlan maps, learn to spot "choke points" between Hi-Sec and Lo-Sec/Null-Sec. These are almost always camped. A good example is the Rancer system.

Failing that, there IS another way to travel. It's more random, chaotic and unreliable, but at least it's possible to use it to get anywhere you want. Wormhole space. Read up on that, understand how it works, and you have a sure-fire way past any gatecamp in New Eden.

Ah, the age-old "all my eggs in one basket" problem. Yeah.



Maybe you should PVE where people aren't trying to kill you.



Yes, you are missing something very big. You don't have to be a PVPer to play Eve, and you don't have to be a PVPer to enjoy content outside of hisec. If you're not going to be the hunter, then you will be the quarry. But the quarry has plenty of tools and techniques to avoid being caught. Even if you don't want to go out and kill people, you do need to understand how PVP works, how the game works, and how to do what you in the way thats most fulfilling to you. Ultimately, if you died, its very likely that you made a mistake that allowed you to be caught, and you shouldn't consider it any different than if you died to NPCs. If you want to do your own thing and not be bothered, there are places in this game and activities that completely allow you to do that. Exploration is often such an activity. But its not the game preventing other people from bothering you, they always can if they want to. This means you have to change your behavior to find the places that are safe to do what you want to do.

Problem is: pure PVE in EVE doesn't exists, it's always an hybrid. As well as deosnt exists "pure" PVP in the sense of team challenge arenas and so on. It's all an hybrid.

Even for someone not intersted in PVP and wanting only a PVE experience the challenge doesn't come (or only econdary come) from stronger/more dangerous NPCs; comes from the risk to unwilled interactions with other players.

If you like to explore you may want to fit a covop frigate (are cheap and very hard to catch) and go nomad for days or weeks, may use WH tunnels to avoid more crowded gates and pop up in deeper null sec areas.

It's a perfectly viable and fun gameplay.

However accepting the idea tha losses can happen and your game session is not granted to go as you expect is a needed step. And if you run in a gatecamp or ganked while doing a site, instead of think to them as assholes ruining the game just consider as part of the "E" (envinroment) in your PVE :)

They're creating gamecontent as well as you.

All the things i don't like about eve, the blobbing ,ecm, gatecamping,dishonor, wardecs,suicide ganking etc
i know i don't like them when they happen to me, but when they happen in my favor i suddenly think they are ok.

i would change a lot of things about eve, but not that core pvp, it works because anyone can do it.

I understand your grief Im A PvEer as well just lost a bling bling talos sniping Serpentis ion blaster cannon sentries L3 mission In High Sec by a lone mastery 5 slasher tackled and neutered! looting my loot from my new mobile tractor unit however it was my tactical mistake to snipe him I couldve warped away instead. so his gain you learn you move on and dont take it personal just buy another ship next ! Sorry to see you go( note little risk=little reward big risk =big I$K)

Bye then.

Biomass.

Seriously. I mean it. Never sully this game again by logging in.

Presumably he missed a comma in there. I know, it made stare blankly for a couple minutes too.

"when EVE came, back in 2003" is what I assume he meant.

Some people think I'm being really mean when I point out to a poster that he's not suited to this game. But COME ON, a post by a guy saying "shouldn't I be able to PVE in peace everywhere in a pvp oriented game?". Am I wrong to say that this person is not compatible with EVE oline and would be happier somewhere else?




No you aren't. True Explorers treat people's attmpts to stop or kill us as an essential part of exploration. We pride ourselves on being able to defeat those who would PVP us without our consent while gathering space riches.




If someone besting you in a game can make you walk away from that game, you should nto have been playing at all. Do you quit playing checkers when someone else gets his peice King'd?



Are you missing something? Are you serious?

And why play video games at all if you can't stand the idea of losing?