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[SYNE] Situation Report and Appeal for Assitance

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N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2013-11-20 21:29:40 UTC  |  Edited by: N'maro Makari
// SIC - PA1 //


Good evening.

Recent events have yielded a situation, one which requires no small degree of scientific and problem solving expertise. Recent action against non-CONCORD signatory research facilities have allowed us to get a hold of sensitive material, which is currently being kept in a protected location, and will be part of an ongoing project.

It should be noted that SYNE does not declare hostility on the 'pirate' groups involved.

We would like appeal for capsuleers, especially those of a scientific background or expertise to contact us at the next opportunity, and join in with this project. The following caveats apply: being of sound conduct and/or of trustworthy reputation, and/or not being aligned nor pre-disposed to share privileged information with the following groups or persons:

- Sansha's Nation
- Blood Raider Covenant (We have no stance on those simply of the Sani Sabik religious persuasion)
- Equilibrium of Mankind
- Factional terrorist or proscribed groups, inc. but not ltd. to Bloody Hands of Matar, Templis Dragonaurs.

It should be noted, that until such time as the project is concluded or terminated, information will not be shared with any external entity without group approval, this includes CONCORD, it's signatories or independent groups inc. but not ltd. to: SOE, SOCT or Mordu's Legion. Results of the project are likely to be made fully public however, along with certain progress reports and updates.

This is not an open invitation, anyone likely to be a liability to security or internal cohesion will not be informed that they will not have project access at this time. However criteria will be as flexible as possible to ensure wider participation. In short, if in doubt, ask. Special consideration will be made for exceptional circumstances.

Decision making will be group based. SYNE will not be the overall command of the project, though we will fill administrative roles if required. Participants will be expected to treat colleagues with respect and toleration. Any resources will remain the property of their original owners unless they deem otherwise.

At this point, we will only deal with individual capsuleers on a case by case basis. For the time being, corporations, alliances and groups will not be considered, though we will likely open access at a later time. Names will be kept confidentially and known only to the SYNE directorate and fellow project members.

We hope to hear from you soon.

N'maro Makari
Executive Officer/Chief Diplomat
SYNE/CEIM

p.s. Statements made here may be revised if demanded within the project.

// SIC - PA1 //

**Vherokior **

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#2 - 2013-11-20 22:30:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
[redacted pending executive review.]

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Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-11-20 23:33:46 UTC
The items in question are not yours, they are stolen.

N'maro Makari wrote:

It should be noted that SYNE does not declare hostility on the 'pirate' groups involved.


Harboring items stolen from the 'pirate' groups is a de-facto declaration of hostility against these groups.

You might find there to be consequences for these actions.

Sabik now, Sabik forever

N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#4 - 2013-11-21 00:50:57 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
The items in question are not yours, they are stolen.

N'maro Makari wrote:

It should be noted that SYNE does not declare hostility on the 'pirate' groups involved.


Harboring items stolen from the 'pirate' groups is a de-facto declaration of hostility against these groups.

You might find there to be consequences for these actions.


True in a way I suppose. Take it as you will but it's not our objective for this project to be a pirate hunt.

**Vherokior **

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#5 - 2013-11-21 01:15:06 UTC
N'maro Makari wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
The items in question are not yours, they are stolen.

N'maro Makari wrote:

It should be noted that SYNE does not declare hostility on the 'pirate' groups involved.


Harboring items stolen from the 'pirate' groups is a de-facto declaration of hostility against these groups.

You might find there to be consequences for these actions.


True in a way I suppose. Take it as you will but it's not our objective for this project to be a pirate hunt.


No, it's simply a pirate facility hunt.

How you can draw a difference between the two and keep a serious face is beyond me.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#6 - 2013-11-21 01:30:35 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
N'maro Makari wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
The items in question are not yours, they are stolen.

N'maro Makari wrote:

It should be noted that SYNE does not declare hostility on the 'pirate' groups involved.


Harboring items stolen from the 'pirate' groups is a de-facto declaration of hostility against these groups.

You might find there to be consequences for these actions.


True in a way I suppose. Take it as you will but it's not our objective for this project to be a pirate hunt.


No, it's simply a pirate facility hunt.

How you can draw a difference between the two and keep a serious face is beyond me.

If someone has what you want, take it from them. Pretty much the rule of thumb for any side in any conflict.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#7 - 2013-11-21 03:34:09 UTC  |  Edited by: N'maro Makari
Evi Polevhia wrote:
N'maro Makari wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
The items in question are not yours, they are stolen.

N'maro Makari wrote:

It should be noted that SYNE does not declare hostility on the 'pirate' groups involved.


Harboring items stolen from the 'pirate' groups is a de-facto declaration of hostility against these groups.

You might find there to be consequences for these actions.


True in a way I suppose. Take it as you will but it's not our objective for this project to be a pirate hunt.


No, it's simply a pirate facility hunt.

How you can draw a difference between the two and keep a serious face is beyond me.


Noted, and in my large pile of notes too. As many as 200 I'd estimate.

In any case the point I was trying to get across is that these materials, while from an attacked facility, does not mean this project will entail such activities. The methodology and "to-do" list are being planned still. Early days though, so do keep checking.

Now, moving swiftly along, I'd like to add that those with limited scientific experience should still contact us, the project will likely have additional tasks.

**Vherokior **

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-11-21 03:40:06 UTC
N'maro Makari wrote:
- Blood Raider Covenant (We have no stance on those simply of the Sani Sabik religious persuasion)

Anyone on the IGS claiming Sani Sabik affiliation of any kind will share information with Azias Urazmie. That's pretty much a given.
N'maro Makari wrote:
- Factional terrorist or proscribed groups, inc. but not ltd. to Bloody Hands of Matar, Templis Dragonaurs.

Remember that the Caldari Providence Directorate is both a "proscribed group" and "factional terrorists," so anyone claiming affiliation or loyalty to former or current Provists should be added to this list.

Why are the Serpentis, Angel Cartel and Guristas absent from this list? Unless they're included under "proscribed groups" or "factional terrorists" (the former of which would categorise all three, and the second of which would categorise at the very least the former two).

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#9 - 2013-11-21 03:54:21 UTC  |  Edited by: N'maro Makari
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
N'maro Makari wrote:
- Blood Raider Covenant (We have no stance on those simply of the Sani Sabik religious persuasion)

Anyone on the IGS claiming Sani Sabik affiliation of any kind will share information with Azias Urazmie. That's pretty much a given.
N'maro Makari wrote:
- Factional terrorist or proscribed groups, inc. but not ltd. to Bloody Hands of Matar, Templis Dragonaurs.

Remember that the Caldari Providence Directorate is both a "proscribed group" and "factional terrorists," so anyone claiming affiliation or loyalty to former or current Provists should be added to this list.

Why are the Serpentis, Angel Cartel and Guristas absent from this list? Unless they're included under "proscribed groups" or "factional terrorists" (the former of which would categorise all three, and the second of which would categorise at the very least the former two).


Your concern is understood, but a couple of points need clarification.

Firstly, the words 'inc. but not ltd. to' shorthand for 'including but not limited to'. The lists are meant to give a general idea to people, it is not a name-and-shame list.

Secondly I believe it was stated, apologies if it was not clear enough, that it is our intent to be flexible. Will I look at a long-time supporter of the Blood Raiders who routinely harvests young rose-cheeked maidens from their beds while gazing longingly at their signed 'Bloody Omir' poster at night and say "there's our man/lady"? Probably not. Someone who had a brief fling in their "wilder years" with a group of people drinking questionably red liquid? This bothers me less. A lot less. There are very few cases which will get an outright no based solely on one factor. Cases you describe regarding Sabik on the IGS would indeed be of interest, so if you have any specifics, please do mail them.

In any event, while we fill the role of adjudicator now, it is our intent to set up a project leadership that is not SYNE-dominated, and decisions, including admissions will be tempered by group consensus. This will happen after initial 'setting up' phases.

I apologise if there were misunderstandings.

*edit* Your concerns about other Pirate groups in particular have been taken into account, our hesitation to list them is based mostly on the fact that we have worked on rare occasion with capsuleer affiliates in areas of mutual interest, most notably in the opening of the Nation War of Resurgence.

**Vherokior **

Ninavask
The Synenose Accord
#10 - 2013-11-21 16:08:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ninavask
An easier way to put it. Basically if you have interacted with the accord in some hostile fashion we're not goin to invite you to the tea party unless you can make a commitment to play nice. We will of course return that courtesy.

Dr. Ninavask Revan

Colonist

Alexylva Paradox

The views above are the opinions and beliefs of Dr. Ninavask and do in no way reflect on his employeers or associates at the time of posting.

Nicolas Merovech
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-11-21 19:13:10 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
The items in question are not yours, they are stolen.

N'maro Makari wrote:

It should be noted that SYNE does not declare hostility on the 'pirate' groups involved.


Harboring items stolen from the 'pirate' groups is a de-facto declaration of hostility against these groups.

You might find there to be consequences for these actions.


Every action has a consequence, so save your empty, pseudo-philosophic threats. Also, If someone had tech that you wanted and there was an opportunity to acquire it, you would have taken it so get off your high horse.

Dr. Nicolas A. Merovech, Ph. D, M.D.

Doctor Valate
Delve Medical Services
#12 - 2013-11-21 19:38:56 UTC
Goodness, how dramatic and exciting !

Is this sort of thing why the Seylinn Conference thingmadoodle is postponed indefinitely ?

Doctor Valerie Valate. Not to be confused with the other Valerie Valate.

Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-11-21 20:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Silas Vitalia
Nicolas Merovech wrote:

Every action has a consequence, so save your empty, pseudo-philosophic threats.


1. If I make a threat you will be aware of it, although your little band already seems acquainted with losing little ships all on its own.


Nicolas Merovech wrote:

Also, If someone had tech that you wanted and there was an opportunity to acquire it, you would have taken it so get off your high horse.



2. My comment is about your organization claiming one thing and doing another. You can support murder and thievery and take as you like by all means, there's just no need to hide such things is the point.

It is a fact the materials in question you seek are being acquired through bloodshed, of which you will be supporting. This is nothing to be ashamed of!


EDIT: I'll add that CONCORD has specifically mandated this line of inquiry to be avoided. Is it the stance of your alliance to be in violation of this capsuleer edict?

Sabik now, Sabik forever

N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#14 - 2013-11-21 20:31:38 UTC
Doctor Valate wrote:
Goodness, how dramatic and exciting !

Is this sort of thing why the Seylinn Conference thingmadoodle is postponed indefinitely ?



More came about as a result of, but partially yes, the operation requirements of the time meant we would not be able to do it to a good enough standard.

**Vherokior **

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-11-21 20:31:42 UTC
N'maro Makari wrote:
*edit* Your concerns about other Pirate groups in particular have been taken into account, our hesitation to list them is based mostly on the fact that we have worked on rare occasion with capsuleer affiliates in areas of mutual interest, most notably in the opening of the Nation War of Resurgence.

There should be absolutely no "mutual interest" between the Synenose Accord and any of the pirate groups, up to and including Sansha's Nation. Either one of them is doing us a favour by killing the other.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#16 - 2013-11-21 21:03:15 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Nicolas Merovech wrote:

Every action has a consequence, so save your empty, pseudo-philosophic threats.


1. If I make a threat you will be aware of it, although your little band already seems acquainted with losing little ships all on its own.


Nicolas Merovech wrote:

Also, If someone had tech that you wanted and there was an opportunity to acquire it, you would have taken it so get off your high horse.



2. My comment is about your organization claiming one thing and doing another. You can support murder and thievery and take as you like by all means, there's just no need to hide such things is the point.

It is a fact the materials in question you seek are being acquired through bloodshed, of which you will be supporting. This is nothing to be ashamed of!


EDIT: I'll add that CONCORD has specifically mandated this line of inquiry to be avoided. Is it the stance of your alliance to be in violation of this capsuleer edict?


Well, murder and thievery are tools which can, on occasion be used to advance a greater good, but we prefer to explore other avenues and keep those way low down the list of solutions.

Apologies for not outlining our stance on murder and thievery more explicitly. To clarify, our corporate ethic is mostly based around an "ends-justify-means" basis with some core tenants, and all actions we undertake are considered from an ethical standpoint. That last bit was more for anyone wondering about out corporate ethics, but I hope it gives you an insight.

But in answer to the point you raise in brief, our stance is that non-provoked transgressions of person, life and property are not excusable if there were realistic alternatives. But please do not assume that we follow moral absolutes or maxims. It is our view that any given situation will require different ethical perspectives for the best outcome.

On the subject of CONCORD, SYNE is not affiliated to The CONCORD Assembly in any way shape or form. We have communicated on occasion, as we have with other non-capsuleer entities but that is the extent of the relationship. We are well aware of the potential ramifications of our actions, and we accept them. If CONCORD wishes to penalize us, or take further action, we will be disapointed, but we will endeavor to continue. We sorely wish that CONCORD would prove more helpful, however we will continue our work, with or without their assistance.

**Vherokior **

N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#17 - 2013-11-21 21:09:20 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
N'maro Makari wrote:
*edit* Your concerns about other Pirate groups in particular have been taken into account, our hesitation to list them is based mostly on the fact that we have worked on rare occasion with capsuleer affiliates in areas of mutual interest, most notably in the opening of the Nation War of Resurgence.

There should be absolutely no "mutual interest" between the Synenose Accord and any of the pirate groups, up to and including Sansha's Nation. Either one of them is doing us a favour by killing the other.


We appreciate your concerns and advice on our mutual interest. However, we follow a more 'enemy of my enemy' line of thought, I apologize if this is not to your liking. For example, a Sansha battleship is closing on a small transport of the Angel Cartel. We have no alliance nor like for the Cartel, but in this event, it's our opinion that it is best to deny Nation their objectives, rather than scorn all and do nothing.

**Vherokior **

Anslo
Scope Works
#18 - 2013-11-21 21:22:10 UTC
Wouldn't think of it as stealing from pirate factions...more just speeding along karma.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Blaise Cadelanne
The Synenose Accord
#19 - 2013-11-21 22:08:32 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Wouldn't think of it as stealing from pirate factions...more just speeding along karma.


That is how I look at it too. They get what they give.

Blaise Cadelanne

They bid me take my place among them, In the halls of Valhalla! Where the brave may live forever!”

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#20 - 2013-11-21 22:55:17 UTC
N'maro Makari wrote:
// SIC - PA1 //


Good evening.

Recent events have yielded a situation, one which requires no small degree of scientific and problem solving expertise. Recent action against non-CONCORD signatory research facilities have allowed us to get a hold of sensitive material, which is currently being kept in a protected location, and will be part of an ongoing project.

It should be noted that SYNE does not declare hostility on the 'pirate' groups involved.

We would like appeal for capsuleers, especially those of a scientific background or expertise to contact us at the next opportunity, and join in with this project. The following caveats apply: being of sound conduct and/or of trustworthy reputation, and/or not being aligned nor pre-disposed to share privileged information with the following groups or persons:

- Sansha's Nation
- Blood Raider Covenant (We have no stance on those simply of the Sani Sabik religious persuasion)
- Equilibrium of Mankind
- Factional terrorist or proscribed groups, inc. but not ltd. to Bloody Hands of Matar, Templis Dragonaurs.

It should be noted, that until such time as the project is concluded or terminated, information will not be shared with any external entity without group approval, this includes CONCORD, it's signatories or independent groups inc. but not ltd. to: SOE, SOCT or Mordu's Legion. Results of the project are likely to be made fully public however, along with certain progress reports and updates.

This is not an open invitation, anyone likely to be a liability to security or internal cohesion will not be informed that they will not have project access at this time. However criteria will be as flexible as possible to ensure wider participation. In short, if in doubt, ask. Special consideration will be made for exceptional circumstances.

Decision making will be group based. SYNE will not be the overall command of the project, though we will fill administrative roles if required. Participants will be expected to treat colleagues with respect and toleration. Any resources will remain the property of their original owners unless they deem otherwise.

At this point, we will only deal with individual capsuleers on a case by case basis. For the time being, corporations, alliances and groups will not be considered, though we will likely open access at a later time. Names will be kept confidentially and known only to the SYNE directorate and fellow project members.

We hope to hear from you soon.

N'maro Makari
Executive Officer/Chief Diplomat
SYNE/CEIM

p.s. Statements made here may be revised if demanded within the project.

// SIC - PA1 //



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