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[New module] Remote Warp Core De-stabilizer
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Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#1 - 2013-11-20 09:52:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Swiftstrike1
Specialised warp jamming module. Reverses the polarity of any warp core stabilizers fitted to the target ship, turning them into "warp core de-stabilizers". Instead of increasing warp strength, those modules will now decrease warp strength thus preventing the ship they are fitted to from warping. Has no effect on ships without warp core stabilisers. Has no effect on warp strength role bonuses e.g. venture.

Penalty: this module cannot be fitted at the same time as traditional warp jamming modules.

Warp jam strength: 2x the number of WCS fitted to target. (Zero if target doesn't have any WCS).




Additionally, make T2 warp core stabs useful by giving them immunity to this module.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#2 - 2013-11-20 09:55:55 UTC
So you mean something like HIC point but worse?

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Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#3 - 2013-11-20 09:59:47 UTC
Focused warp disruption script can catch anything, but can only be used by HICs. This module could be used by any ship, but only catch ones with WCS. Swings and roundabouts.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#4 - 2013-11-20 10:06:13 UTC
WCS's already have a counter called extra points & scrams.
They also have seriously crippling downsides for any ship that wants to still be actually combat capable.

Stop asking for a module to beat the guy who fit to beat your fit.
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#5 - 2013-11-20 10:18:06 UTC
Nobody who wants their ship to be combat capable puts warp core stabs on there. Stabs are used when people want their ships to be GTFO capable. The penalties should be to sig radius and agility rather than lock range and scan res, but that's a whole different discussion.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#6 - 2013-11-20 10:35:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Arya Regnar
Swiftstrike1 wrote:
Specialised warp jamming module. Reverses the polarity of any warp core stabilizers fitted to the target ship, turning them into "warp core de-stabilizers". Instead of increasing warp strength, those modules will now decrease warp strength thus preventing the ship they are fitted to from warping. Has no effect on ships without warp core stabilisers. Has no effect on warp strength role bonuses e.g. venture.

Penalty: this module cannot be fitted at the same time as traditional warp jamming modules.

Warp jam strength: 2x the number of WCS fitted to target. (Zero if target doesn't have any WCS).




Additionally, make T2 warp core stabs useful by giving them immunity to this module.

What's stopping pilots from offlining WCS?

Just brainstorming this.
Since you can't have scram and this module fitted at the same time.

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Siern Scottsman
The Singularity Syndicate
#7 - 2013-11-20 10:36:58 UTC
so you want to catch the dtripple stabbed, FW plexers?

Posting in stealth nerf Faction warfare thread
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#8 - 2013-11-20 10:59:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Swiftstrike1
Arya Regnar wrote:

What's stopping pilots from offlining WCS?

Just brainstorming this.
Since you can't have scram and this module fitted at the same time.

Absolutely nothing. Emergent gameplay at its finest :)
Siern Scottsman wrote:
so you want to catch the dtripple stabbed, FW plexers?

Posting in stealth nerf Faction warfare thread

I don't think it's a nerf to faction warfare. If anything it's a buff to the 'warfare' aspect of faction warfare.

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culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-11-20 11:13:45 UTC
So basically you want a point, which is not a point... gotcha.

Maybe refine your idea better?

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Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-11-20 11:14:18 UTC
People keep suggesting already existing ways to catch people with WCS. Fit more points, fit faction points, or even bring friends.

[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-11-20 11:45:55 UTC
Iudicium Vastus wrote:
People keep suggesting already existing ways to catch people with WCS. Fit more points, fit faction points, or even bring friends.


What is this friends you speak of?

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com 
Sarah Stallman
Pen2 Logistics
#12 - 2013-11-20 12:41:55 UTC
Swiftstrike1 wrote:
Nobody who wants their ship to be combat capable puts warp core stabs on there. Stabs are used when people want their ships to be GTFO capable. The penalties should be to sig radius and agility rather than lock range and scan res, but that's a whole different discussion.


No, they got it right. With the huge penalty to lock range and scan res, pretty much the only offensive capability a pilot can reliably perform with one or more installed is a bomb of some kind, smart or otherwise. I have always assumed this was done intentionally.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-11-20 13:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Debora Tsung
Wouldn't it be easier and more versatile to use a second scram or even second and third warp disruptor (for greater range)?

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

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Mascha Tzash
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-11-20 14:08:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Mascha Tzash
Has gatecamping become such an effort?

The only thing I can see in this proposal is that you want to have at least two ships at a gate. The one has your module to catch anything that has WCSs fitted and the other one is in place to catch anything without WCSs.

Broken down, this sounds to me lilke: "I want my easy indu kills back."