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Reson why most videos and fights in EvE are boring
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Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#1 - 2011-11-20 00:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Jojo Jackson
Red boxes vis blue boxes mixed with purple and green boxes ...

No changs to not compare it with Atari 2600 block-graphics :(.


There ARE realy cool ships with great texturs ... you just never see them except when spinning them in station.
But as soon as you fly your very first Mission, you soom out so far, that you can't even see your own ship ... enemys are ALLWAYS just red blinking boxes anyway :(. And if you don't soom out so far, you might get navigation problems pritty fast.

I don't know how to solve this problem ... but the coolest part (space game with cool ships) is the worst part at the same time (box vis box fights).

PS: ironicly it makes the great and new animated Turrets ... so damn useless as there is no changs to see them fire if you can't see the ship at all *CRY*

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!
T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2011-11-20 00:53:08 UTC
Solution: Build a better gaming machine.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#3 - 2011-11-20 00:53:41 UTC
I can see my own ship fine, but as it would be in real (ish) combat, can't see the enemy other than the sensor blips (red boxes).
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2011-11-20 01:00:35 UTC
ITT: problem with blob warfare

small gang stuff can still be done up close

The Drake is a Lie
Shivus Tao
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-11-20 01:05:10 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
ITT: problem with blob warfare

small gang stuff can still be done up close


On the contrary. I find I've zoomed out more in small gangs because it's more of a numbers game of keep at distance, approach, and manual course corrections relative to the enemies on the field. In fleets I can zoom in and enjoy the ships because it's little more than "orbit the anchor" or approach the target en masse and "shoot the primary."
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#6 - 2011-11-20 01:12:54 UTC
Automatic Cinematic Camera Controls


  • Follow Object (Drone, Missile, Primary, etc.)
  • Dolly Controls (Vextor camera paths around an object or group of objects)
  • etc.

www.shipsofeve.com
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2011-11-20 01:15:22 UTC
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:
Automatic Cinematic Camera Controls


  • Follow Object (Drone, Missile, Primary, etc.)
  • Dolly Controls (Vextor camera paths around an object or group of objects)
  • etc.

Star Wars Empire at War had this and it was epic.
Ai Shun
#8 - 2011-11-20 01:21:54 UTC
Jojo Jackson wrote:
I don't know how to solve this problem ... but the coolest part (space game with cool ships) is the worst part at the same time (box vis box fights).


Flight recorder that allows you to replay an engagement with various camera angles, moving them, cutting, etc.
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#9 - 2011-11-20 01:26:21 UTC
The aspect ratios in eve lead to it being quite small, check out STO's graphics, which are VERY nice, even if the game isn't.
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#10 - 2011-11-20 01:57:42 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:

Star Wars Empire at War


OMIGAWD YES

The pie is a tautology
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-11-20 02:22:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanya Powers
Quote:
Reson why most videos and fights in EvE are boring


Action: simplest

Environment: poor

Action engaged: "and..." -that's the feeling you have when you look at each and every video of Eve.

I'd like dozens of fracking buttons of different actions, engagement systems, options (flying), skills actually meaning something.

Unfortunately it doesn't, all you have to do is fly Minmatar/Angel.

This is one of the reasons it sucks that much.
Faith Sunstrider
#12 - 2011-11-20 02:40:49 UTC
FFS it's EVE and not EvE!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2011-11-20 02:41:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Faith Sunstrider wrote:
FFS it's EVE and not EvE!

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…dammit forums, stop trying to pre-interpret html entities. Evil
SilentSkills
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-11-20 03:03:05 UTC
we just need a smaller map-like secondary screen to see the red-orange-purple-blue boxes with blinky ****.

While the rest of the screen is filled with the usual EVE stuff, and your ship zoomed in its full glory.

Kinda like a minimap/radar whatever you call it. Follow me?
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-11-20 03:04:45 UTC
SilentSkills wrote:
we just need a smaller map-like secondary screen to see the red-orange-purple-blue boxes with blinky ****.

While the rest of the screen is filled with the usual EVE stuff, and your ship zoomed in its full glory.

Kinda like a minimap/radar whatever you call it. Follow me?



Don't worry soon enough you'll have full blues in null wherever you go, the only reds you'll see is high sec bears.

Interesting game.

Or not.

Roll
Jooce McNasty
Islefive Consulting
#16 - 2011-11-20 03:24:45 UTC
The best EVE combat videos IMHO are the ones RnK make. Not because of the battles but because they add in their Comm's and commentary. This makes the videos 100x better then people running pvp videos to music.

It would be cool if CCP implemented a record function that recorded all actions on grid, and allowed you to go back and replay the actions on grid as well edit them and move the camera around.

This would prove 2 functions.

1. It could be used as a learning tool for new pilots, watch this replay tell me what was done wrong here type stuff or see where you made the mistake in a loosing battle.

2. It would allow for more cinematic type PVP battles where you could zoom in between ships and showing different angles.

I don't know how hard this would be to do but if it was possible it could be amazing. I am pretty sure SC2's replays work like this.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-11-20 03:33:35 UTC
Jooce McNasty wrote:
The best EVE combat videos IMHO are the ones RnK make. Not because of the battles but because they add in their Comm's and commentary. This makes the videos 100x better then people running pvp videos to music.

It would be cool if CCP implemented a record function that recorded all actions on grid, and allowed you to go back and replay the actions on grid as well edit them and move the camera around.

This would prove 2 functions.

1. It could be used as a learning tool for new pilots, watch this replay tell me what was done wrong here type stuff or see where you made the mistake in a loosing battle.

2. It would allow for more cinematic type PVP battles where you could zoom in between ships and showing different angles.

I don't know how hard this would be to do but if it was possible it could be amazing. I am pretty sure SC2's replays work like this.



That would be great but you really can't imagine how much "stuff" (hardware) from your side this would ask.

I already smell tears from here Lol
Jooce McNasty
Islefive Consulting
#18 - 2011-11-20 03:42:49 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Jooce McNasty wrote:
The best EVE combat videos IMHO are the ones RnK make. Not because of the battles but because they add in their Comm's and commentary. This makes the videos 100x better then people running pvp videos to music.

It would be cool if CCP implemented a record function that recorded all actions on grid, and allowed you to go back and replay the actions on grid as well edit them and move the camera around.

This would prove 2 functions.

1. It could be used as a learning tool for new pilots, watch this replay tell me what was done wrong here type stuff or see where you made the mistake in a loosing battle.

2. It would allow for more cinematic type PVP battles where you could zoom in between ships and showing different angles.

I don't know how hard this would be to do but if it was possible it could be amazing. I am pretty sure SC2's replays work like this.



That would be great but you really can't imagine how much "stuff" (hardware) from your side this would ask.

I already smell tears from here Lol


Ya I can smell the frying circuit boards from here, but it would be epic. Could you imagine the player made movies? The fact that people could make epic space battles post them on YouTube. It could increase the subscriber base if combat could look cool. My wife loves the idea of eve. The epic space battles the cool looking ships. She hates the fact that she feels like shes playing an excel spread sheet. She has never spent more then 30 min playing even because of the UI and the way the game actually acts.
Elrich Kouvo
Doomheim
#19 - 2011-11-20 04:05:24 UTC
Admit the bounty hunter system is broken and then remove it please. You don't have to add anything. Just remove it, because you can not fix it.
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#20 - 2011-11-20 04:09:35 UTC
I want a decent radar overlay + Picture in Picture that can be slabved to another target, i.e. the enemy fleet.
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