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Precator Orti
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-11-18 14:28:27 UTC
So I like to fly between Jita and Amarr to update some orders... I am now going with a freighter, but would I see a much faster warp speed and travel time if I change to a different ship? I am assuming I would correct? I currently have a Tayra ship but was looking for a faster one. Most of the time I dont move cargo.
Nancy Crow
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#2 - 2013-11-18 14:30:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Nancy Crow
Yeah, freighters are pretty much the slowest thing to travel in. If you aren't carrying any cargo, a shuttle is probably your best bet. Near instant align and decent in-warp speed. Interceptors/cov ops will likely be the fastest thing come Rubicon, should you have the skills to fly them.
Lilliana Stelles
#3 - 2013-11-18 14:31:53 UTC
Use a frigate or an interceptor.
This is the case even now. The freighter and Tayra will kill you on align time, for that matter.

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Precator Orti
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-11-18 14:35:02 UTC
Thanks for all the help all!
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-11-18 15:09:08 UTC
If you're hauling stuff, then at present, a Blockade Runner moves almost like a combat interceptor. Haven't checked Singularity for the BR's post-Rubicon numbers, but I bet it'll still be fleet-footed. Also, a Covert Ops frigate moves just as fast as a fleet interceptor, and its cloak makes it less likely to draw the fire of an insta-lock suicide ganker looking to roll the dice.

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Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-11-18 17:03:32 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
The freighter and Tayra will kill you on align time, for that matter.
Freighter definitely, Tayra somewhat.

But the nimble Industrials (Sigil, Badger, Nereus, Wreathe) can all be brought to less than 4 second align time if you fit some inertia stabilizers. And they warp as fast as a frigate, so they are a good general transporter. Blockade Runners warp even faster and have a lower base align time. They have less low slots, so they usually have a slightly larger align time, but as the faster warp speed makes up for it - especially in Rubicon.

Also, if you fly thru high-sec, carry some inertia stabilizers with you - if you are just traveling with little or no cargo, you can fit them to noticeably reduce your align time.

And if you just want to travel quickly without any cargo, in terms of speed, the best are: jump clones Blink, interceptors, cov ops.
Precator Orti
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-11-18 17:13:05 UTC
Thomas Builder wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
The freighter and Tayra will kill you on align time, for that matter.
Freighter definitely, Tayra somewhat.

But the nimble Industrials (Sigil, Badger, Nereus, Wreathe) can all be brought to less than 4 second align time if you fit some inertia stabilizers. And they warp as fast as a frigate, so they are a good general transporter. Blockade Runners warp even faster and have a lower base align time. They have less low slots, so they usually have a slightly larger align time, but as the faster warp speed makes up for it - especially in Rubicon.

Also, if you fly thru high-sec, carry some inertia stabilizers with you - if you are just traveling with little or no cargo, you can fit them to noticeably reduce your align time.

And if you just want to travel quickly without any cargo, in terms of speed, the best are: jump clones Blink, interceptors, cov ops.


so If I have the Tayra what fittings can I buy to warp / align faster?
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#8 - 2013-11-18 17:22:04 UTC
Precator Orti wrote:
Thomas Builder wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
The freighter and Tayra will kill you on align time, for that matter.
Freighter definitely, Tayra somewhat.

But the nimble Industrials (Sigil, Badger, Nereus, Wreathe) can all be brought to less than 4 second align time if you fit some inertia stabilizers. And they warp as fast as a frigate, so they are a good general transporter. Blockade Runners warp even faster and have a lower base align time. They have less low slots, so they usually have a slightly larger align time, but as the faster warp speed makes up for it - especially in Rubicon.

Also, if you fly thru high-sec, carry some inertia stabilizers with you - if you are just traveling with little or no cargo, you can fit them to noticeably reduce your align time.

And if you just want to travel quickly without any cargo, in terms of speed, the best are: jump clones Blink, interceptors, cov ops.


so If I have the Tayra what fittings can I buy to warp / align faster?


How about some inertia stabilizers?

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Precator Orti
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-11-18 17:36:16 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
Precator Orti wrote:
Thomas Builder wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
The freighter and Tayra will kill you on align time, for that matter.
Freighter definitely, Tayra somewhat.

But the nimble Industrials (Sigil, Badger, Nereus, Wreathe) can all be brought to less than 4 second align time if you fit some inertia stabilizers. And they warp as fast as a frigate, so they are a good general transporter. Blockade Runners warp even faster and have a lower base align time. They have less low slots, so they usually have a slightly larger align time, but as the faster warp speed makes up for it - especially in Rubicon.

Also, if you fly thru high-sec, carry some inertia stabilizers with you - if you are just traveling with little or no cargo, you can fit them to noticeably reduce your align time.

And if you just want to travel quickly without any cargo, in terms of speed, the best are: jump clones Blink, interceptors, cov ops.


so If I have the Tayra what fittings can I buy to warp / align faster?


How about some inertia stabilizers?


If I buy the interceptor and fly that, what else can i put on it to speed up warp / align time.
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-11-18 18:20:03 UTC
Precator Orti wrote:
If I buy the interceptor and fly that, what else can i put on it to speed up warp / align time.
High slots: nothing

Mid slots: usually nothing
(If you have a really slow ship with a 10+ second align time, then fitting a MWD/Afterburner and running it once will reduce your align time - but that only helps if your align time is larger than the cycle time of the prop module, otherwise it'll take longer.)

Low slots:
- Inertia stabilizers
- Nanofiber Internal Structure - Inertia Stabilizers reduce your align time more, but they also increase your signature radius. If you care about not getting locked, Nanos might be better. (Nanos also increase your max speed sub-warp speed, but that isn't really useful while travelling, as you'll be in warp or aligning. Unless of course you use the autopilot.)

Rigs:
- Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer - increase max warp speed and (coming tomorrow) also warp acceleration
- Low Friction Nozzle Joints - reduces align time
With Rubicon, the Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer will be the rig of choice for fast travel.

I think that's it for modules. Other than that there are some implants you can use and a few skills that reduce align time.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#11 - 2013-11-18 19:22:07 UTC
I wrote up a forum post once about aligning a Mammoth. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3547092#post3547092

You'll see the impact of the rigs and lows there as well as the diminishing returns. With the changes to Rubicon I am not sure how much impact there will be, but if I understand the changes, it will only be on the base align time in terms of my post.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#12 - 2013-11-18 19:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Use a frigate or an interceptor.
This is the case even now. The freighter and Tayra will kill you on align time, for that matter.

Even a shuttle is faster than a freighter.

If you want to keep to the industrial line, Blockade Runners are VERY FAST (second to only Interceptors/Covert Ops), and can easily take shortcuts through lowsec thanks to their covert cloak. They all are capable of hauling at least 8000 m3 (that seems to be the "sweet spot" for fitting all of them - enough for most level 4 courier missions).
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-11-18 19:55:19 UTC
MadMuppet wrote:
I wrote up a forum post once about aligning a Mammoth. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3547092#post3547092

You'll see the impact of the rigs and lows there as well as the diminishing returns. With the changes to Rubicon I am not sure how much impact there will be, but if I understand the changes, it will only be on the base align time in terms of my post.
Any specific reason why you used Meta 0 inertia stabs? Especially as Meta 4 ones are dirt cheap (~50k ISK) and much better.

Anyway, Rubicon will not change anything for the align time. The changes in Rubicon affect what happens after you align, i.e. the time spend in warp. While currently a Tayra and a Badger spend almost the same time to warp 20 AU, tomorrow the Badger will be much faster, saving 12 seconds on a 20 AU warp. See http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/warp-drive-active/?_ga=1.251337734.1075708008.1384213123
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-11-19 03:36:58 UTC
Alternatively do what most nullsec alliance people do. Maintain an alt who's only purpose is to update buy/sell orders in Jita.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#15 - 2013-11-19 04:10:46 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Alternatively do what most nullsec alliance people do. Maintain an alt who's only purpose is to update buy/sell orders in Jita.


This.

Multi region traders have alts in the common or furthest destination regions. Then there is eve-central.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-11-19 05:29:36 UTC
If you do get a trade alt remember that Ammar-Jita is only 5.5 mill ISK for up to 860,000m3 with Red Frog Freight.

In my experience they will deliver well within 24 hours and it removes all that stress about whether you will get ganked on the way.
Pit Bredd
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-11-19 11:28:57 UTC
Concider to buy Gnosis - fast align times and big cargo space. Frigate will still be much faster, but it will hardly carry over 500 - 700 m3 with all low slots fitted with expanded cargo holds. Gnosis has 900 m3 basic cargo hold and 6 low slots to make it bigger or make the ship fly faster.
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-11-19 16:37:39 UTC
Bah, the Gnosis is still a BC, so with the changes to warp speeds, it's now slow.
A fast industrial will warp almost twice as fast. And while the Gnosis has a very nice align time, the difference isn't big enough to overcome the difference in warp speed.

However, you can fit a much better tank on a Gnosis, so if you want to carry valuable items, it can be a better choice.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#19 - 2013-11-20 01:55:52 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
If you do get a trade alt remember that Ammar-Jita is only 5.5 mill ISK for up to 860,000m3 with Red Frog Freight.

In my experience they will deliver well within 24 hours and it removes all that stress about whether you will get ganked on the way.


I just moved out of Solitude and used Black Frog to move my goods after consolidating it all.

That there is a service like this, is just the best.

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