EVE General Discussion

And how to bring back REAL WAR back again: this can be done quite easily by making the fights in low-sec + 0-sec 'limited engagements', meaning for instance: 1 ship entering low-sec can be attacked by 2 ships as a max. Or a fleet of 2 entering low-sec can be attacked by 4 ships as a max (still leaving the gangs a considerable edge).
So, gangs seeing a ship entering low-sec (+ the software automatically registering that as a solo) can dedicate 2 attack ships to battle it, as a max. And 1 ship entering low-sec (but software detecting a fleet of 2) then the gang can deploy 4 ships to attack, as a max. And when fight is over, then for say 3 minutes any new engagements will be prohibited by the timer.

This would make fightings in low-sec & 0-sec far more interesting since both parties now would have a real fighting chance based on risk-taking, bravery, cunningness, skills, tactics & strategics.

The above should NOT affect in any way the wars fought by wardec-parties, those game mechanics of course should stay unchanged. Only applied to non-wardec players going in low-sec or 0-sec.

The above change would still leave the gangs a considerable edge in the battles, however, those battles would be far more interesting then those we face now i.e. 3/4/5/6/7/8 vessels or more versus 1. Such a change would bring back 'risk-taking' & 'adventure' & 'suspense' back into the game in low-sec + 0-sec. thus such would result in far more entertaining action in low + nul. And I know even most gang-members would like to see far more action in low + 0 (..since the trend of bigger & bigger & bigger gang-alliances takes away the fun for them also).

This comment is meant as a constructive suggestion by me trying to improve & make battles far more challenging & interesting for all.

Just an idea of mine: is it worth considering? What do others think?

Yes, I concur with you: there is no 'easy solution' for it; it takes real experts (rules me out, for sure) to tackle the problems players are facing at present re ridiculous/boring/dumb gankings at low-sec gate entries; one could not even go in low-sec at present without being jumped by a gang of 3/4/5/6/7/8?! But it nevertheless is worth to keep striving for improvements? Would you not like to see active members doubling or trippling or more? I would, since EVE is no doubt unmatched whereas is comes to the potentials it has and could offer to enthousiastic SciFi-gamers.

Last time i went to low sec went as follows: I consulted the chart: 1 player in that low-sec system average 30 min...so I waited a while (20 minutes)...charts keep stating 1x player there...so I jumped in...& ...3x T3 cruisers + 1x Falcon waiting for me, lost in say 8 seconds. Even auto-destructing your own ship outside a station would provide more fun (great graphical blasts). So, even the 'info' provided by the system-charts is 'bend' in favour of gankers? If one is in a system one can see cloaked T3's being present there...but whereas it comes to the 'charts' that info is left out? Why? These are 'Alice-in-Wonderland-Magics' that should be adjusted in my opinion, since 'magics' do not relate to REAL war conditions?

That's a wonderfull idea.

Let's reduce the insanely huge amount of freedom this game offers
and instead implement artificial limitations that make no sense whatsoever
in a world that's all about freedom and doing whatever one wants to do.


You don't quite *get* EvE.

You hit it pretty much spot on.

I only miss a mentioning of the vets in starter corps additionally ruining the game for new players,
by telling them to mine or run missions for isk and thus underlining the single player experience,
instead of actively playing with them.

Which they can't.
Because they're ******* carebears.
And they're spreading the disease.


Great post !

PvE player wonders why he is bored...

Although it makes sense to generalise,
there are (must be) PvE players out there who aren't actually seeking constant
gratification/satisfaction/the fake feeling of fake accomplishment by shooting dumb AI
who won't actually ever pose any significant threat to them.

You can spot these people easily, btw, by blowing them up and looking at their reaction.

The more they rage/cry/"not actually care but still post",
the less of an actual life and self-worth they have.


Like that super moron who got ganked in his tengu.

In other words, people that make stupid moves in making a war dec thinking they have to pour massive amounts of isk and assets into will end up with a nasty surprise when they find themselves in a war of attrition.

It ends up costing them more than they hoped to have gained from their little private war or wars.

This.

EVE is about what you make of it your own.
So if it is boring, YOU are making it boring for yourself and playing it wrong.

Point me where I said he has to play it in my way...please do.

I said, if you find the game boring, it's your own damn fault and you are playiing the game wrong.
As you can change how you play it and it will stop being boring.

I don't like mining, so if I start mining every day, it will be boring...I'm playing the game wrong, as I'm doing something I don't like.

If you are playing the game in the way YOU like to play it, it should not be boring to play the game.

Eve is a PVE and PVP game. I offer as proof of this the rather large amount of PVE content. Hundreds of missions, Incursions, Mining, Exploration, etc. Thousands of players spend thousands of hours exploring this content. Your choice of ignoring this content, and choosing to only PVP in ships, does not make it a PVP-only game.