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Tractor beam rig
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Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-08-21 08:40:11 UTC
I think it would be useful for some ships to be able to fit a rig that increases the range and velocity of tractor beams. This could possibly add utility to ships with extra high slots as well as add possible extreme range noctis shenanigans opportunities. As for the details, I was thinking for 150 calibration a tech I rig could give +50% range and velocity, and for 300 calibration a tech II could get +100% speed and velocity.

Obviously this rig would be a bit niche in application, but I think the extra flexibility would be a welcome addition.
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#2 - 2013-08-21 08:50:10 UTC
double effect for T2 rig is too strong also a maxed out noctis pilot can get extreme tractor range max is now 96Km same for capital tractor beams. so i think 50% and 100% is way too much.

i am not against the idea but your version is too strong i think 20% for T1 rig and 30% for T2 rig should be max

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-08-21 09:06:28 UTC
I would say that 20% is far too small of a bonus, especially when dealing with something as specialized as tractor beams. On a tech II small tractor beam that comes out to only 4.4 km of extra range, which would hardly be worth the module slot. What I was looking at is the ability to give any ship a marauder like bonus if they're willing to give up a significant chunk of calibration to do it.

And the double bonus is something that has been done before with the CPU rigs, so there's actually precedent for it.
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-08-21 09:20:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Hareka
Small Tractor Beam I: 80 km and 2 km/s
Small Tractor Beam II: 96 km and 2,4 km/s

Small Tractor Beam I + T1 range+speed rig:
80 km * 1,5 = 120 km
2 km/s * 1,5 = 3 km/s

Small Tractor Beam II + T1 range+speed rig:
96 km * 1,5 = 144 km
2,4 km/s * 1,5 = 3,6 km/s

Small Tractor Beam I + T2 range+speed rig:
80 km * 2 = 160 km
2 km/s * 2 = 4 km/s

Small Tractor Beam II + T2 range+speed rig:
96 km * 2 = 192 km
2,4 km/s * 2 = 4,8 km/s

I don't see any possible use for that range.
If you need 200 km range use Capital Tractor Beam.
Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-08-21 09:29:11 UTC
Tobias Hareka wrote:
Small Tractor Beam I: 80 km and 2 km/s
Small Tractor Beam II: 96 km and 2,4 km/s


This information is incorrect unless you're using a noctis. The ranges are 20 km and 24 km respectively.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2013-08-21 09:47:51 UTC
Ersahi Kir wrote:
Tobias Hareka wrote:
Small Tractor Beam I: 80 km and 2 km/s
Small Tractor Beam II: 96 km and 2,4 km/s


This information is incorrect unless you're using a noctis. The ranges are 20 km and 24 km respectively.



That was the point. People WOULD use these on a noctis.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#7 - 2013-08-21 10:07:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Danika Princip wrote:
Ersahi Kir wrote:
Tobias Hareka wrote:
Small Tractor Beam I: 80 km and 2 km/s
Small Tractor Beam II: 96 km and 2,4 km/s


This information is incorrect unless you're using a noctis. The ranges are 20 km and 24 km respectively.



That was the point. People WOULD use these on a noctis.

Would you swap your salvage rigs on noctis for some useless range? Doubt it.
I cant imagine situation where you might want to use tractor rigs over others, so they will probably end up being useless as some of other rigs in drone and electronics sections.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#8 - 2013-08-21 10:27:30 UTC
Ersahi Kir wrote:
Tobias Hareka wrote:
Small Tractor Beam I: 80 km and 2 km/s
Small Tractor Beam II: 96 km and 2,4 km/s


This information is incorrect unless you're using a noctis. The ranges are 20 km and 24 km respectively.


if its for marauder just wait they will change a lot.

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#9 - 2013-08-21 10:28:23 UTC
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Ersahi Kir wrote:
Tobias Hareka wrote:
Small Tractor Beam I: 80 km and 2 km/s
Small Tractor Beam II: 96 km and 2,4 km/s


This information is incorrect unless you're using a noctis. The ranges are 20 km and 24 km respectively.



That was the point. People WOULD use these on a noctis.

Would you swap your salvage rigs on noctis for some useless range? Doubt it.
I cant imagine situation where you might want to use tractor rigs over others, so they will probably end up being useless as some of other rigs in drone and electronics sections.


maybe not for range but for speed hell yeah

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-08-21 15:03:04 UTC
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Would you swap your salvage rigs on noctis for some useless range? Doubt it.
I cant imagine situation where you might want to use tractor rigs over others, so they will probably end up being useless as some of other rigs in drone and electronics sections.


You may not be able to imagine it, but the reason I suggested the idea is I found a use case for a tractor beam bonus rig. I hardly feel like I'm a special snowflake and I figured that other people ran into the same situation, so I suggested it.
Lord Eremet
The Seatbelts
#11 - 2013-11-17 06:23:00 UTC
I'm giving this thread a bump because I found out my noctis was lacking. It need a tractor beam rig Shocked
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#12 - 2013-11-17 06:27:51 UTC
t1 range velocity rig increase by 15% each
t2 20%
penalty to shield recharge or something

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Gigan Amilupar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-11-17 08:59:02 UTC
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Ersahi Kir wrote:
Tobias Hareka wrote:
Small Tractor Beam I: 80 km and 2 km/s
Small Tractor Beam II: 96 km and 2,4 km/s


This information is incorrect unless you're using a noctis. The ranges are 20 km and 24 km respectively.



That was the point. People WOULD use these on a noctis.

Would you swap your salvage rigs on noctis for some useless range? Doubt it.
I cant imagine situation where you might want to use tractor rigs over others, so they will probably end up being useless as some of other rigs in drone and electronics sections.


I can. I know a few people who have like 7 tractor beams on their Noctis, and use salvage drones for the the actual salvaging. That said, I would be a bit concerned about this idea further removing usefulness from the new deployable structure that is being put into the game, so we should see how that works out first imo.

Batelle wrote:

t1 range velocity rig increase by 15% each
t2 20%
penalty to shield recharge or something


Why would it need a penalty? It's not like the Noctis is hero tanking while salvaging or anything. That said, 15% and 20% look nicer then 50% and 100% when we consider what this rig would primarily be put on.