EVE General Discussion

I don't mean they are about to start making us all space barbies again, I mean the mistakes they made in the past could be about to repeat themselves.

After the summer of rage Hilmar was forced to come back to the community (with or without his $1000 Japanese jeans) and pretty much beg forgiveness. He had lost a fair chunk of his playerbase and was about to lay off about 20% of his workforce.

Hilmar

We were told that he would talk to the community more and try to keep us all on the same page. Things went well for awhile.


Over the last few months things seem to be repeating themselves.

1 - Trillions of isks worth of ships to Somer - CCP didn't feel the need to tell the community or even the CSM. CCP no longer feels the need to discuss things with the community

2 - The community event - more than the event it was their response to it. Trying to convince us it was a success. They are either losing the connection to the community or heading back into denial.

3 - GM changes - You can now be banned for "impersonating" your own alt. You can also be banned for scraping the APIs, but even though its against the EULA they won't ban you, well unless they do. They are returning to half thought out ideas that make no sense at all.


Then we have the BIG one. Seaguls vision. Does anyone else remember the build up to Incarna? It was going to be awesome, it was going to be amazing, it was going to change the universe forever......but we can't tell you anything about how it will work. No we also can't tell the CSM.....you know for 'reasons'.

They sunk HUGE amounts of resources into it only to discover the players didn't want it (even though they had been hyped by the non information) all that Dev time goes to waste.

Today we have this new vision that is going to be awesome, it is going to be amazing, it is going to change the universe forever......but we can't tell you anything about how it will work. No we also can't tell the CSM.....you know for 'reasons'.

I know its early in the process and its not all final so they can't be super specific, but does anyone else feel a little history repeating.

I did rage a little when Hilmar stood on stage at the last Fanfest and told us that 5 years ago they said we were going to get to fight on planets and today its a reality in the form of Dust, I thought a slap in the face and a stern talking to were in order after that.

They do seem to have a mental block on New Eden and Eve. They think anything they add in the New Eden setting is Eve, we say unless we can do it from the Eve client its not Eve.

judging by that quote nothing at ccp has changed.

Eve is an awesome game and CCP deserves most of the credit for that. Yes, they have made many ill-conceived "improvements", and at times they seem like they couldn't be more out of touch with the community. We don't make it any easier on them when some among us complain about every single decision that they make, good or bad. They haven't killed EVE yet though.

You must be the last EVE Player to not know that IncanaDebacle had nothing, nothing to do with Avatars. At ALL.

It was the incomplete nature of CQ, and with only the Minnie CQ available. And the lack of avatar interaction and a sealed Door. That...or a static picture of The Door were the options when docking.

Had nothing to do with your barbies themselves. Leave them out of it.

derp.

Wel, there is one little detail. We're on month ~6 out of 36 until the Hallelujah Plan finishes releasing all the planned stuff. And as in the past the summer expansions have been weak (maybe because of icelandic winter wreaking havoc on productivity), likely there won't be much ~awezome~ until Winter 2014, a year from now.

For a little while now I have thought CCP have been heading for a new Incarnageddon. Maybe not a Rubiconageddon, but not far off. I like the changes we're getting but they are too few. Feels like Eve is being abandoned.



That as well. I think perhaps this was more an issue of transparency. If they had actually said "Hey, we're integrating the CARBON engine during Incarna, so although we are starting the first step to walking in stations, don't expect too much" then we wouldn't have had half the rage kick back.

Bullshit. I'll believe that when I see it.

Agreed, I think CCP are screwing up big time at the moment.

Edit: Also, didn't you hear? Dust is actually dying. No, I mean it. Really.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

That's because everyone assumed the 12 months of almost no content they got before Incarna was because CCP had been spending it developing that one CQ. When 90% of their development time had likely gone into the development of the CARBON engine.

Developing an engine is not a small feat. Developing one room for a 3D avatar to walk around is a small feat. That engine by the way, then brought a plethora of awesome changes in Crucible. Like most of the V3 textures, Time Dilation, all the new UIs, the basis for the new Crime watch system, etc etc etc.