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Solo ship for a c3 question

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#1 - 2013-11-05 19:26:25 UTC
I'm looking to see if anyone has a decent ship they use to solo c3 anom's. I can do it in a tengu but it takes forever to get through a few anoms. I'm wondering if the Gnosis has a setup that can hold its own and blow through the anoms in a decent time (10-15min per) any advise or ideas? I'm just debating now, so anything would help.

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Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#2 - 2013-11-05 23:19:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Rall Mekin
Whether a gnosis can solo C3s depends on your support skills (obviously, not the hull skill, since the bonuses are fixed).

I'd need to know what weapons system you have t2, how good your shield versus armor skills are, and how quickly you are looking to solo them. I am US Time zone and will be around sometime this evening. Why not convo me if I'm on.
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-11-05 23:55:52 UTC
Proteus is the best C3 soloer by miles, so if you can fly one of those use it.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#4 - 2013-11-06 00:04:29 UTC
I have a tengu, but it takes too long to lob missles, though if I use a fleet I can blow through sites in no time. but if its just me it takes forever

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Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-11-06 00:42:49 UTC
[New Setup 1]
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer,Nanite Repair Paste
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
True Sansha Armor EM Hardener
Capacitor Power Relay II

Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

200mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Small Tractor Beam II
Expanded Probe Launcher II,Core Scanner Probe I
Salvager II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors

Over 800 DPS, loots/salvages the site while you're running it, very overtanked. You won't lose any drones besides Hobgoblins once you know how drone aggro in WHs works and you can carry a bunch of spare ones.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#6 - 2013-11-06 01:29:11 UTC
Gnosis definitely can't do that. You'd need a T3 or BS to do C3s in that amount of time. Which one you choose depends on your skills and wallet.
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#7 - 2013-11-06 01:40:30 UTC
[Legion]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
True Sansha Energized Thermic Membrane
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Capacitor Battery II
Cap Recharger II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Anti-EM Pump II

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


Like a baws.

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.

Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-11-06 01:56:00 UTC
Ugh, a five-gun Legion. Not only will you spend about five minutes pew pewing each battleship, but you need to bring a Noctis along afterwards to loot ****.
Zoltan Lazar
#9 - 2013-11-07 01:15:15 UTC
[Tengu, Proper WH]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN Afterburner II
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith B-Type EM Ward Field
Republic Fleet Target Painter

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier



Suggested implants:
LG Crystal set
Zainou 'Snapshot' Heavy Assault Missiles AM-703
Zainou 'Deadeye' Guided Missile Precision GP-803
Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-903
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003

900 DPS, fully applied to cruisers.

That proteus fit is decent, but gardes/ogres can't do full damage against cruisers, especially without any omnis, and you face a lot of cruisers in C3s. Salvaging while you go is nice, but then you run into cargo issues, and you put all your eggs in one basket. Much less likely to get ganked BM'ing to come back later.
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-11-07 01:38:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Xequecal
The Tengu fit is pretty good, the only downside is it basically requires you two-boxing a probing alt.

Cargo is absolutely not a problem though, just jettison all non-ribbon salvage, it's not like it's worth anything. You'll finish 30 sites minimum before you fill up your cargo with blue loot and ribbons.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#11 - 2013-11-07 01:48:50 UTC
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
. Much less likely to get ganked BM'ing to come back later.


This isn't true at all, C3 site running ships tend to have a decent tank and thus will be problematic to take out, any cloaky hunter worth his salt knows that you wait for them to come back in a salvager, salvage the site, then blow up the weak Noctis/Destroyer and loot the nanoriboons.
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#12 - 2013-11-09 22:23:21 UTC
Xequecal wrote:
Ugh, a five-gun Legion. Not only will you spend about five minutes pew pewing each battleship, but you need to bring a Noctis along afterwards to loot ****.

You salvage C3s in a Noctis??? Explains your stats comp fail.

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.

Viera Lynn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-11-11 12:47:48 UTC
Ive heard the maelstrom can do great things, never tried it though.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/47888-Wormhole-Maelstrom-PVE-solo-c3-or-small-gang.html

search around a bit.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#14 - 2013-11-11 17:18:14 UTC
Hm.. ok, I have an alt that can fly a loki, anyone got a loki setup that would work? I can easily run a c3 with 3 tengus, but I'd honestly like one that I can do solo, i'll give the proteus fit a try, but a loki might work too.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#15 - 2013-11-11 17:19:04 UTC
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
[Tengu, Proper WH]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN Afterburner II
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith B-Type EM Ward Field
Republic Fleet Target Painter

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier



Suggested implants:
LG Crystal set
Zainou 'Snapshot' Heavy Assault Missiles AM-703
Zainou 'Deadeye' Guided Missile Precision GP-803
Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-903
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003

900 DPS, fully applied to cruisers.

That proteus fit is decent, but gardes/ogres can't do full damage against cruisers, especially without any omnis, and you face a lot of cruisers in C3s. Salvaging while you go is nice, but then you run into cargo issues, and you put all your eggs in one basket. Much less likely to get ganked BM'ing to come back later.


why two empty low slots?

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#16 - 2013-11-11 23:25:42 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
[Tengu, Proper WH]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN Afterburner II
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith B-Type EM Ward Field
Republic Fleet Target Painter

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier



Suggested implants:
LG Crystal set
Zainou 'Snapshot' Heavy Assault Missiles AM-703
Zainou 'Deadeye' Guided Missile Precision GP-803
Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-903
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003

900 DPS, fully applied to cruisers.

That proteus fit is decent, but gardes/ogres can't do full damage against cruisers, especially without any omnis, and you face a lot of cruisers in C3s. Salvaging while you go is nice, but then you run into cargo issues, and you put all your eggs in one basket. Much less likely to get ganked BM'ing to come back later.


why two empty low slots?



Off the top of my head, I do not believe that fit has two empty low slows.

That fit with any other propulsion system tends to give you 4 lows courtesy of the Augmented Capacitor Resevoir, which gives you an additional high slot instead of the low some other engineering subs give. The Interdiction Nullifier gives you NO slots, so instead of the +1 low slot other propulsion subs give, you don't get one, meaning you wind up with 3.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-11-16 00:16:59 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Hm.. ok, I have an alt that can fly a loki, anyone got a loki setup that would work? I can easily run a c3 with 3 tengus, but I'd honestly like one that I can do solo, i'll give the proteus fit a try, but a loki might work too.

I'm kinda wondering this too. I don't know much about fitting t3's, but my main can fly a loki now. I'll probably stick to a drake for awhile, but is the loki a good ship for w-space outside of pvp and c5 escalations?

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Janna Sway
Ember Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#18 - 2013-11-16 00:39:24 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
I'm looking to see if anyone has a decent ship they use to solo c3 anom's. I can do it in a tengu but it takes forever to get through a few anoms. I'm wondering if the Gnosis has a setup that can hold its own and blow through the anoms in a decent time (10-15min per) any advise or ideas? I'm just debating now, so anything would help.


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7enn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-11-16 03:05:26 UTC
Take the isk spent on any of these noob T3 fits, buy manyseveral drakes and make some profit. Are you doing these sites to make isk or to fly around in an overpriced glory boat that blinks gank me cuz it will hurt?

A type this, C type that. For a C3 sleeper site? 800dps on a 1.3 bil isk proteus??? How about get an astarte and put rails and 1 heavy launcher in the highs and have near 1000 dps. With the left over isk buy a second an a third and forget about it.

If you need to put a high grade set of crystals/slaves in your head - that's fine. If you need to plug them in to run pve in a C3 you might be a little.... whacky!?!

There are so many options in the sub billion isk range that do better damage than the cream puffs these guys are linking. I question their motives for pushing you towards such an overpriced ship. Wait for the expansion and fly the sisters of eve ships like everyone else.
Janna Sway
Ember Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#20 - 2013-11-16 10:13:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Janna Sway
7enn wrote:
Take the isk spent on any of these noob T3 fits, buy manyseveral drakes and make some profit. Are you doing these sites to make isk or to fly around in an overpriced glory boat that blinks gank me cuz it will hurt?

A type this, C type that. For a C3 sleeper site? 800dps on a 1.3 bil isk proteus??? How about get an astarte and put rails and 1 heavy launcher in the highs and have near 1000 dps. With the left over isk buy a second an a third and forget about it.

If you need to put a high grade set of crystals/slaves in your head - that's fine. If you need to plug them in to run pve in a C3 you might be a little.... whacky!?!

There are so many options in the sub billion isk range that do better damage than the cream puffs these guys are linking. I question their motives for pushing you towards such an overpriced ship. Wait for the expansion and fly the sisters of eve ships like everyone else.


You are definitely right with all you said, however, do not underestimate the versatility T3's. T3's are multitalents and only require the exchange of some subsystems instead of entire ships in order to perform various tasks.

You want to run a data/relic site in a WH? - setup your subsystems for that task.
Then you would like to scan for new wormhole exits? - just change your subsystem setup, using the same ship.
Then you would like to fleet support with warlinks? - just change subsystems...
I guess you get the idea...

T3 strategic cruiser are master of none, that is right, but their versatility makes them priceless, especially in W-space.

T1 ships are designed with "replaceability" in mind.
T2 ships are designed with "specialization" in mind.
T3 ships are designed with "generalization" in mind.

No hard feelings. :)
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