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Is multibox mining worth it? Alternative ways to make ISK?

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Wawarp Dridrive ActActive
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-11-09 12:27:57 UTC
I find it amusing how people actually WANT eve to be a second job.

Like that dude with 8 miners and training for a titan. LOL?

It is not possible you are enjoying this game by running more than 2 accounts. You turned it into a job, admit it.

Obviously CCP benefits from this.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#22 - 2013-11-10 18:33:40 UTC
Wawarp Dridrive ActActive wrote:
I find it amusing how people actually WANT eve to be a second job.

Like that dude with 8 miners and training for a titan. LOL?

It is not possible you are enjoying this game by running more than 2 accounts. You turned it into a job, admit it.

Obviously CCP benefits from this.


Everybody measures fun differently. While I am not a miner, I have been know to have my badly skilled mining crew out once a week when I work from home. Isk is Isk and it all adds up.. I can can assure you.. I have great fun in this game :D
Few hours of mindless mining while I can't do much else in game is another few ships I can turn to space dust in PVP.

... What next ??

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-11-11 02:48:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Omniflect wrote:
Hi,

I've been mining with 4 miners, orca and freighter for some time. The ISK is okey, but much of it goes to pay for accounts and I cannot really afk or do anything else because every 30 seconds to 1 minute I hear "The asteroid has depleted" and go search for the character that produced that sound. I'll quit EVE if I continue doing that. Emptying ore, tractor-beaming and transporting takes time too.

Fly safe.


Ain't "resource rebalancing" great ?

Price of mins down, price of PLEX up, large chunks of the Phillipines all but wiped clean from the face of the Earth... where will it all end ? Shocked

The Four Housecats of the Apocalypse can not be far behind, amiright ? Blink

Other than that, I'd suggest some PI... it's gonna be HAWT in Rubicon Cool

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

Kryxal
Wing Born Echos
#24 - 2013-11-11 20:47:58 UTC
Adoris Nolen wrote:
with 6 accts, look into C5 whs. 2 carriers, 2 dreads, loki & max booster. easily pull in 1b isk an hour.

ofc, you may get seiged, camped, ganked by a 30 man t3 fleet, & other hilarities but its worth it.


But really, how likely is that to happen?

A few kills...

Actually, pretty likely sooner or later if you're not paying enough attention.
Kaylee Stardrifter
Templars HIghsec
Stellar Fusion
#25 - 2013-11-13 07:02:22 UTC
I run 5 ishtars in null to the tune of 60-90m an hour depending on sites. All about what your willing to commit.

Plus side to that is all my esculations i sell for 50% of drops to continue ratting away.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#26 - 2013-11-13 10:57:48 UTC
Multibox mining is the only sensible way of doing mining.

However, if you do not like mining then there are other ways of making isk with multiple accounts. For example, dumping the other accounts and running missions with 2 of them. Perhaps up to 3.

Or you can just fill them to the eyeballs with fof missiles and go at it that way, but it is not as effective as 2 properly flown and skilled ships usually.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#27 - 2013-11-13 21:23:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Katherine Raven
Multibox mining is great, but I make more money manufacturing that I ever did in wormholes, null sec, or mining. The key is to have a good spreadsheet and to minimize risk. Building in stations instead of POS' etc. With the right things to be building you can make fantastic return on investment with very little risk. Plus your activities are very difficult to disrupt. In addition to that, it frees up a lot of game time to do other things while your build jobs chug away. You can use this time for whatever you want, mining for more income, pvp, exploration, missions, anything. If you have the characters I would suggest train them all up for manufacturing, slowly build up how much capital you have invested in jobs, the end goal is to be running 30 day jobs cycling once a week on different characters. That way once a week you put in an hour or two getting jobs started, and the rest of the week you are free to do whatever you want.
Spankijs Omaristos
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-11-14 12:47:01 UTC
Kaylee Stardrifter wrote:
I run 5 ishtars in null to the tune of 60-90m an hour depending on sites. All about what your willing to commit.

Plus side to that is all my esculations i sell for 50% of drops to continue ratting away.



You are doing something really wrong there.
Im getting 160-170mil/h with 3 Domi+Geddon settup (2x Domis=600DPS, 1x Domi=700DPS, Geddon = 800DPS)

Lance Stratos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-11-14 14:37:16 UTC
Wawarp Dridrive ActActive wrote:
I find it amusing how people actually WANT eve to be a second job.

Like that dude with 8 miners and training for a titan. LOL?

It is not possible you are enjoying this game by running more than 2 accounts. You turned it into a job, admit it.

Obviously CCP benefits from this.


I don't get my fun out of Eve per say. I have done almost every aspect of it: WH, 0.0, low, highsec, incursions, manufacturing, mini professions, running my own corp, being an alliance director, spying (still do), ganking freighters, FCing, the list goes on. What I like about eve is the social aspect and the friends i have made.

I play eve for maybe 2 hours a day, being an IT Administrator for engineers (who are some of the dumbest people i have seen) i like the idea of coming home and doing something relaxing and still have my pvp toon for when i want to kick ass.

What I looked at before i got all my toons is keeping them active and the most passive way to do it. fortunately i have billion of isk on the market (somewhere in the 100 mark) so i don't need to worry, tons of passive income. So Mining was just something to do on the side. What these characters now are doing is training for dreadnoughts. 11 Revelations (no need to worry about ammo) or ~100,000 DPS. they are also bomber, oracle, smart-bombing battleship, guardian, and freighter capable. Eventually I will get them into nidhoggers too and use them as triage things. Since I know people dont like doing them and my 11 guys would do a much better job.

Now out of everything I have done in the game I look at the game differently. granted i am not up to date in all the latest things everywhere, but having the experience I can say the mining profession needs a serious overhaul and anyone who disagrees is a troll or a person who will make this game collapse if they manage to somehow sway CCP.

Kaptn Xo
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-11-29 10:08:49 UTC
I believe that it all goes down towards your own preferences of Eve gameplay. For me mining is a nice way to chill during weekends. Since I don't pay for plexes as I prefer to spend money on other shiny stuff.
Is the mining profitable? I guess it is. After stripping couple of large gravs and some cherrypicking in smaller sites you make enough money to buy a bunch of carriers for weekly ops... or something else you strive for.

What are the callenges in multiboxing mining?

  • swapping crystals is annying as ****
  • having someone else in your site with unnamed cans also pisses you off
  • novice miners who cant warp out once the spawn arrives and loose their ships... and whine
  • stocking crystals for 10 hulks can be costly
  • drilling anything smaller than large grav means you spend time flying between roids which pop too often (with the exception of spodumain rocks which are awesome)


I'm not strong in numbers and calculations but an average chill mining op brings me about 3-4 bil per weekend. I do believe that it could be pushed up higher if you get indy 4+ sites in your system or if you go all out "kill dem roids" mode till your eyes bleed.

I run 10 miners, with Rorq booster, Noctis grabber, freighter hauler and belt tank. Planning to add 6 more to the fleet since my 5th LCD panel has arrived.Twisted
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