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Explain to me why there should be invincible anything in this game.

"Titans aren't invincible. Just a pain to kill." --CCP 2006

We all know how that turned out.

I get that it's supposed to help the lone player venture into nullsec or wormholes where they can't expect refitting services. But it's practically free, its scoopability and reinforce timer discourage combat (discourage player interaction) and there's no drawbacks at all. EVE is the game where your decisions have lasting consequences... right?

A player can use it to refit outside of combat and use it to store their stuff. That's fine. They can scoop it easily and move on. That's fine. But it shouldn't be almost unkillable by a single other pilot when it's a single person's object in space that costs nothing to set up. Why bother taking sov, setting up a starbase or using a carrier for refitting or storing items? You can use this thing for no risk, as long as you check it once a day or just scoop it when you don't need it! Someone reinforced it? Scoop, anchor, transfer items from can to depot. I can refit again! Guess the attacker's going to have to maintain a constant 48-hour vigil if they want me out of this system.

What kind of game counts on either my watching paint dry for two days or the other guy not logging on for two days for me to win a fight? Inversely, making me check my depot each day manually is a drag.

Maybe the idea here is that those darned goons can't blob my depot. I'm only a single player and blobbing my depot is unfair when I set it up in their spa--

Damn. Their space. The space they fought for. The space they own. The space where they're supposed to get advantages such as fitting services for owning. The space that's only livable because they make the effort to keep undesirables out of it. The space that suddenly is worth a whole lot less because just anyone can come in and set up shop making ISK in the space they made the effort to take and spent the ISK to upgrade while I'm bumming off their work basing out of an unkillable structure.

CCP Fozzie wouldn't know much about holding space and all of the wonderfully horrible things you already have to do to own it considering he belonged to Pandemic Legion.

I was wondering why he suddenly started talking about warp drives. That really is an acronym they need to change. Mobile Warp Bubble fits better, is more descriptive, and doesn't share acronyms with a VERY COMMON module.



Fabulous, now can we get this to apply to EVERYTHING ELSE, POS liter is EVERYWHERE.

I don't think CCP intends these to be the object of fights, but the facilitators of other fights.

Too powerful as is. Structures this cheap and individual should be very TEMPORARY. Design should be for pick up at end of current logon session. Reinforced mode of 1-3 hours is long enough to return from supply run or following escalation. I would tend to limit unvisited lifetime to 2 days (shield decay vs recharge from ship visit). Otherwise expect every low and null sec player to have scores of these deployed and the old can clutter to be recreated though not in belts.

Protecting something this cheap should be something of a trap - just like rescuing a buddies ship. And the trap is somewhat two way since an attacking fleet can waste hours hanging around for a structure you wrote off --- or find that it was bait for your larger ambush fleet (plenty of time to organize).

However, slightly larger and more expensive structures could well have much longer lives. But really it should scale down from cost of equivalent small POS and ship+hangar array. Say 1/3 the cost and have an actual strontium and fuel bay for reinforce lasting 24 hours+. So about 50M ISK and 1 fuel block per day (10 cube bay).

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Say you have an invader in your space, and the invader is using a depot. Many here seem to think the way to get rid of the invader is to kill his depot.

You got it backwards. The way you get rid of the depot is to kill the invader. Kill his ship, pod him home. Make it clear he is not wanted. Once he decides to move on you can find his depot and kill it without worrying about it getting re-deployed during the 2 day reinforcement. The only remaining annoyance is remembering the time it becomes vulnerable so you can finish it off.

CCP Fozzie, can you answer my questions? Can a pilot flagged as criminal use a depot? Will doing so be considered evading CONCORD as all the assets used in the gank are not subject to CONCORD destruction?

Also, unless these are being used to actually store substantial assets, players won't even need to keep it up in space (and thus at risk of destruction) to use the refitting service. It's so cheap and small that, more likely, it will just be a standard item people put in their cargo when they go out roaming. It will be deployed ad-hoc when needed, then scooped up after.