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Mad Ani live EVE stream petition

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Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#221 - 2013-11-13 06:41:16 UTC
Btw, is it just me or is the OP in violation of
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Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited.

Using your EVE account to try to get employment is clearly "income-seeking purposes" to me.
Ryan526
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#222 - 2013-11-13 06:58:26 UTC
I'm sure CCP has people who can do this way better than mad ani. If CCP wanted a 24 hour afk stream with music they would have one, they dont need ani. This is not a resume, and not how you apply for a job. The players don't decide who gets hired, that's CCP's job.
Shacheh
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#223 - 2013-11-13 08:58:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Shacheh
Ryan526 wrote:
I'm sure CCP has people who can do this way better than mad ani. If CCP wanted a 24 hour afk stream with music they would have one, they dont need ani. This is not a resume, and not how you apply for a job. The players don't decide who gets hired, that's CCP's job.


I would still believe that players' opinions have weight in such decisions (application based on publicity).
I don't think CCP sees streaming music/events directly related to their game. And 8000 concurrent viewers vs. 30 000-40 000 concurrent players online in EVE, it's quite an amount.

Then again I believe a job application works better than forum posts but who knows!
Xaerael Endiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#224 - 2013-11-13 10:44:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Xaerael Endiel
Shacheh wrote:
Ryan526 wrote:
I'm sure CCP has people who can do this way better than mad ani. If CCP wanted a 24 hour afk stream with music they would have one, they dont need ani. This is not a resume, and not how you apply for a job. The players don't decide who gets hired, that's CCP's job.


I would still believe that players' opinions have weight in such decisions (application based on publicity).
I don't think CCP sees streaming music/events directly related to their game. And 8000 concurrent viewers vs. 30 000-40 000 concurrent players online in EVE, it's quite an amount.

Then again I believe a job application works better than forum posts but who knows!


There's a saying, from whom I can't credit since I can't remember who said it, but it goes like this:

"Never listen to what fans think you should do. 99% of fans are idiots. And never give fans what they want, because then they'll just keep asking for more."

This is a classic case of this statement being true. No one truly impartial thinks this is a good idea, just Mad Ani's fans. There's literally dozens of reasons why CCP simply shouldn't do this. I'll copy paste some things I posted elsewhere on the subject....

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In fact, if they were to hire him and let him continue doing what he's been doing, I suspect the amount of things he'll be allowed to stream will actually shrink significantly. CCP simply can't sanction an official "warzone intel" stream without an absolute uproar from the players. There's something wrong with the boy if he sees that as "OK" and a thing CCP should do.


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Well, in my mind, there's no way war stuff could be done live. Not even staging systems. Which means that everything would have to be posthumous and simply an un-interactive recap. Which could really be made to look far nicer if they simply took the killmail data for big events/turning points of a battle and made cutscene quality replays with a semi decent voice over.

Now, that's a good idea to me.


I've thought about it even more, and I'm confident to say that even an official stream of trade hub undocks would be deemed an "unfair advantage" against haulers, since it would allow gankers to see potential targets. Unofficial streams are fine because that's a PLAYER doing it, not a moderator/developer.

If the supporters of this idea can't see what's wrong with it, they really don't understand the way Eve works.

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I'd like a job at CCP please. my name will be CCP_Commonsense.
Znagl
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#225 - 2013-11-13 10:47:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Znagl
CCP Mad Ani?
More like CCP Douche!

Where is the promotional value in looking at people undocking from stations and tidi lagfests.

kil2 made some great video footage, with good commentary and some valuable pvp insight.
mad ani is just some lame attempt at gaining internet fame with 10+ annoying banners and terrible music.

Not sure how CCP recruits people but I am pretty sure they will contact whoever they are interested in.
Begging for a job just shows a lack of self-value...
TownSaver
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#226 - 2013-11-13 16:44:23 UTC
Mad Ani wrote:

• 8125 Twitch followers

Who would like me to continue this full time as CCP Mad Ani?

8,107

No.
Dace Malukker
The Praxis Initiative
Gentlemen's Agreement
#227 - 2013-11-13 17:17:02 UTC
Znagl wrote:
CCP Mad Ani?
More like CCP Douche!

Where is the promotional value in looking at people undocking from stations and tidi lagfests.

kil2 made some great video footage, with good commentary and some valuable pvp insight.
mad ani is just some lame attempt at gaining internet fame with 10+ annoying banners and terrible music.

Not sure how CCP recruits people but I am pretty sure they will contact whoever they are interested in.
Begging for a job just shows a lack of self-value...


But... but... animated gif of kitten rocking out on headphones... surely this is job worthy.
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#228 - 2013-11-13 17:46:37 UTC
Shacheh wrote:
Ryan526 wrote:
I'm sure CCP has people who can do this way better than mad ani. If CCP wanted a 24 hour afk stream with music they would have one, they dont need ani. This is not a resume, and not how you apply for a job. The players don't decide who gets hired, that's CCP's job.


I would still believe that players' opinions have weight in such decisions (application based on publicity).
I don't think CCP sees streaming music/events directly related to their game. And 8000 concurrent viewers vs. 30 000-40 000 concurrent players online in EVE, it's quite an amount.

Then again I believe a job application works better than forum posts but who knows!

8000 peak concurrent viewers, which happened once. You all try to make it sound like it's a regular thing. Current viewer number is 125.
And how many of those are actual active viewers and not people who just leave their browser open 24/7? Going by the chat activity, and the fact that he's just been streaming a black screen for hours I'd say they are all afk.

tl;dr The channel is pretty much dead unless on the occasions where other people create content for him. Mad Ani himself doesn't do anything except leech off of others.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#229 - 2013-11-13 18:11:21 UTC
I can only imagine how 'active' his channel would be if the timer board for this farce of a 'war' wasn't public; not like he can be bothered to add much other self-gained insight to his stream.
502 Bad Gateway
Doomheim
#230 - 2013-11-13 18:25:29 UTC
Sorry, but i'd rather have CCP Mintchip back than see CCP Mad Ani

The stream provides nothing but coverage of major conflicts, the other 90% of the time is spent looking at a station undock, hardly warrants being put onto an active payroll.

The only reason he managed to peak the 8365 concurrent viewers mark was because everyone wanted to see a big alliance get shut down, not because they wanted to see him. If it wasn't for the Current conflicts within EVE, nobody would even batter an eyelid.

If he wants to be paid to stream, He should actually stream content, not station undocks.
Chi Ana
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#231 - 2013-11-13 19:06:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Chi Ana
-1 from me, no need for more useless GM's. i prefer them to spent the money on a dev that makes real usefull content.
Terra Khashour
Dark Tendencies
#232 - 2013-11-13 19:15:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Terra Khashour
No.

The most important objection is that he begged money from people, supposedly in order to improve the stream. Instead, you can now watch how he play BF. This makes me suspect that he will use position to achieve personal gain(in game). And for God's sake, if he's got a new job why he wants to work for the CCP ... for me it's all kind of strange.
Ssllit Romney
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#233 - 2013-11-13 19:24:34 UTC
One of the benefits I can see to this is that Mad Ani actually has some pulse on where the big fights are going to be (better than CCP) and they could use this intel to reinforce the nodes where this will occur, increasing the quality of large fleet battles.
502 Bad Gateway
Doomheim
#234 - 2013-11-13 19:26:36 UTC  |  Edited by: 502 Bad Gateway
Terra Khashour wrote:
This makes me suspect that he will use position to achieve personal gain(in game)..

You mean like how he practically begged CCP Rise over Skype, on stream, to be given a Probe, or a way where nobody could engage and kill him?

Ssllit Romney wrote:
One of the benefits I can see to this is that Mad Ani actually has some pulse on where the big fights are going to be (better than CCP) and they could use this intel to reinforce the nodes where this will occur, increasing the quality of large fleet battles.

He is fed intel. Hardly a pulse.
Ssllit Romney
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#235 - 2013-11-13 19:30:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ssllit Romney
502 Bad Gateway wrote:
He is fed intel. Hardly a pulse.


Intel is intel.
502 Bad Gateway
Doomheim
#236 - 2013-11-13 19:33:13 UTC  |  Edited by: 502 Bad Gateway
Ssllit Romney wrote:
502 Bad Gateway wrote:
He is fed intel. Hardly a pulse.


Intel is intel.
Intel != pulse.
Strinyth heart
Harmony Industries
#237 - 2013-11-13 19:37:50 UTC
Ssllit Romney wrote:
One of the benefits I can see to this is that Mad Ani actually has some pulse on where the big fights are going to be (better than CCP) and they could use this intel to reinforce the nodes where this will occur, increasing the quality of large fleet battles.



Players are the ones supposed to inform CCP which systems are going to have a big fight happening so that they can reinforce the node, and that can only be done with a day in advance, so Ani wouldn't do anything that isn't already done by both CCP and players.
octahexx Charante
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#238 - 2013-11-13 19:44:35 UTC
no please just no.
his stream reminds me of the tvshow ouch my balls from the movie idiocracy with all the banners and money begging and **** on the borders around his stream.
Arec Bardwin
#239 - 2013-11-13 20:20:42 UTC
What a terrible idea.
Wilma Fingerdoo
We Have No Bananas
#240 - 2013-11-13 20:22:12 UTC
CCP Ouch my balls, it has a nice ring to it.