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Smartboms needs looking into!
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Heinky
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-11-05 16:19:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Heinky
Smartbombs:

  • Have all different ranges, damages between the different damagetypes > Makes no sence
  • Have different meta numbers for same ranges between the different damagetypes > Makes no sence
  • Is the only damagemodule that havent been changend since introduction > Red head Stephchild
  • Is the only weapon mudule that hasnt got a rig > Makes no sence
  • Is the ultimate sandbox weapon > Kill or suicide (or both :P)
  • Represent the harsh EVE Reality > Its nasty and mean = FUN!!!
  • Need adjusting > due the recent small ship buffs, past speed buff ect ect too many to count


Why:
Getting more dynamic gameplay involving smartboms

How:
Smartbombs themselves
-Fitting Adjustment
-Damage Adjustment
-Range Adjustment
-Fuel Adjustment
-Operational Adjustment
-Product Innovation (fuel, script, launcher)
-Introduction support modules

How they work:
-Operational Adjustment
-Way of applying damage (periodly, constant ect)
-Appliance External target ship factors (sig ect)


I havent post concrete idea's bust given the framework for idea's. I think its time that smartbombs are getting looked into. Pls post idea's below.
Heinky
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-11-13 18:34:54 UTC
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Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-11-13 18:41:21 UTC
Shouting "I have a problem" is neither a feature or an idea.

You haven't even adequately explained what you think is "wrong" with them.

And no, a few bullet points typed out in preschool level English do not count.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#4 - 2013-11-13 18:52:49 UTC

Small & medium smart bombs could use some tweaking.

Large smart bombs are pretty spot on.
Durka'd Frigate gang
Durka'd AHAC gang
RnK Pipe Bombs

Large smart bombs are very effective at removing drones and killing small ships.
Medium smart bombs are sometimes effective at killing drones, but need some tweaking.
Small smart bombs are generally of poor effect because of their limited range (half the time drones orbit outside of the bombing radius).

I would recommend increasing the range of small & medium smart bombs by ~50%... Large smart bombs could use a slight enhancement to their range, but definitely should stay less than 7.5 km's unless faction.

Damage output is generally alright.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-11-14 10:14:47 UTC
My take. Smartbombs coudl do MORE damage and larger range, but cycle way sloer. That would make psolsible to defend more effectively with them, but would create a chance of somethign to pass by, if you are lucky.. or very skilled :P

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-11-14 10:16:16 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Small & medium smart bombs could use some tweaking.

Large smart bombs are pretty spot on.
Durka'd Frigate gang
Durka'd AHAC gang
RnK Pipe Bombs

Large smart bombs are very effective at removing drones and killing small ships.
Medium smart bombs are sometimes effective at killing drones, but need some tweaking.
Small smart bombs are generally of poor effect because of their limited range (half the time drones orbit outside of the bombing radius).

I would recommend increasing the range of small & medium smart bombs by ~50%... Large smart bombs could use a slight enhancement to their range, but definitely should stay less than 7.5 km's unless faction.

Damage output is generally alright.



I think they should be just a bit under T2 scram range. So interceptors can tackle with scrams, but t1 frigs woudl need to be very very careful to try it against a battleship with free high slots ( fainnaly a buff for the tempest)

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Heinky
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-11-14 10:16:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Heinky
Astroniomix wrote:
Shouting "I have a problem" is neither a feature or an idea.

You haven't even adequately explained what you think is "wrong" with them.

And no, a few bullet points typed out in preschool level English do not count.


How about you post your own idea's instead of trolling other ppls visionary idea's?
(ps: what does the first paragraph sais?)

I invite you to post the stuff in my languish.. i bet you cant make up more than 3 words. Lol
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals
#8 - 2013-11-14 10:46:28 UTC
Heinky wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:
Shouting "I have a problem" is neither a feature or an idea.

You haven't even adequately explained what you think is "wrong" with them.

And no, a few bullet points typed out in preschool level English do not count.


How about you post your own idea's instead of trolling other ppls visionary idea's?
(ps: what does the first paragraph sais?)

I invite you to post the stuff in my languish.. i bet you cant make up more than 3 words. Lol


"I dont see you have a better idea" is never an argument after you're 4 years old
And this is hardly a "visionary idea's". I agree smartbombs need some smartening up. Cap booster charged seems to be most relevant, working as ASB's do. Also the guy above posted smalls are worthless and mediums are broken at best.

I am the Zodiac, I am the stars, You are the sorceress, my priestess of Mars, Queen of the night, swathed in satin black, Your ivory flesh upon my torture rack.
Shey Nabali
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-11-14 12:47:43 UTC
Electrique Wizard wrote:
Heinky wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:
Shouting "I have a problem" is neither a feature or an idea.

You haven't even adequately explained what you think is "wrong" with them.

And no, a few bullet points typed out in preschool level English do not count.


How about you post your own idea's instead of trolling other ppls visionary idea's?
(ps: what does the first paragraph sais?)

I invite you to post the stuff in my languish.. i bet you cant make up more than 3 words. Lol


"I dont see you have a better idea" is never an argument after you're 4 years old
And this is hardly a "visionary idea's". I agree smartbombs need some smartening up. Cap booster charged seems to be most relevant, working as ASB's do. Also the guy above posted smalls are worthless and mediums are broken at best.




I don't think fuckinig with large smartbombs is all that neccesary. That being said 'normalizing' the stats of large faction SBombs would be nice (so all damage types have the same range, instead of EM just being blatantly better for no reason).

Small and mediums need, at a minimum, to have thier range pushed out substantialy. Frankly, I might just remove smalls all together, buff mediums, and slightly reduce the fittings. I'm not sure if smarties should go on frigs and dessies anyways, but having usefull mediums for cruisers and BCs and the like would be nice.