Science & Industry

Salutations, as i fail to see a topic about this subject. i would like an input from someone more versed in eve. as what will happen to mining in rubicon. i am talking about the deployable structures and their ability to tractor and storage loot.

now as an orca pilot. i would like to know if it means i can lose my tractor beam and go with full link support ( 2 mining links, 1 armored warfare link? need suggestion about that too )
another link instead of the tractor means i can provide my fleet with nice bonus instead of mining boost.

i am newbie and i totally understand if i just wrote complete bunch of BS. but if i understand correctly the new mobile structure is a boon to miners.

any input or perhaps even an outlying strategy that would be viable using those structures in mining ops?

much obliged

Just a reminder, its an anchorable structure so people can warp to it. While at first i thought it would be a good idea to use in 0.0, I realized it would give away my haulers warp-in position. In highsec it will not matter as much except that you will need to abandon the cans or it will not tractor them. anyone can scoop and not get a flag if you are worried about thieves.

I'm surprised by Tau's reply - he is usually the fountain of all knowledge.

I'm not sure regarding whether the Mobile Tractor Unit can tractor jetcans to the Orca or hauler. It would be logical that they could as a loot can from a rat wreck is the same as a jetcan to the best of my knowledge. I think the Mobile Tractor Units are destroyable without incurring the wrath of CONCORD and they can only tractor one item at once and at a slow speed. Plus last I heard they are currently bugged to hell. Nothing changes does it.

Tau was probably referring to mining in 'deep blue' nullsec where as you being a 'newbie' are probably mining in high sec? If so then armor/siege links would be relevant to you and if you have the skillset they would be useful. Use a shield harmonizing rather than an armor one obviously along with the mining cycle and range links.

If you decided to not use the Mobile Tractor Unit I would go with five Salvage Drones in the Orca. Having a Noctis in your Orca maintenance bay is an incentive to gank although Orca ganks are not that common unless the pilot makes obvious mistakes. Items in rat loot cans are often not worth bothering with but salvage items can add up to a tidy sum. Noctis would be handy for when you get rat hauler spawns as they have the annoying habit of flying out to 90km away. But those spawns aren't that common.

From another thread:



So the structure will tractor in all items the pilot would normally be able to tractor in (including jetcans). This could be a good/bad thing because there are plenty of times you wouldn't want a jet can pulled away from you (for example if it automatically tractors in a jetcan you just dropped, and you planned on filling it up first). I'm also guessing this will screw up any type of fleet history if you use this for tracking miners yield (which you shouldn't be doing anyways as its unreliable and easy to exploit).

So basically it will tractor in any jetcans when dropped by miners (bad) but will also tractor in any wrecks (good). If there was a way to not allow it to tractor in partial jetcans it would be great but the only way I can see this working is if your Orca pilot was not in your corp and miners could release rights to the jetcans (set them to blue instead of yellow) which could work; but chances are it will work similar to salvage drones which will only salvage wrecks you specifically own, and not blue wrecks unless you manually target/set them to salvage.

Even Skiffs have a big enough hold to cycle the jet can timer. This only really affects hulks, and just reinforces the notion that they are now crap.

I just wantede to open a thread about this issue.

Right now I'm mining in a ret and going for mack in 2 weeks, I solo mine in high sec.

my thought was using this auto tractor\looting anchored structure combined with hulk and fill it up quickly then using the ore bay hauler to haul it to a station or I heard there is another structure which is like mobile personal station for players which is also tanky and allows refining on it so may refine to minerals and then haul them to the station or something...

Nope. There's a mobile depot which holds 4000m3 of cargo.

Not sure any of this stuff will really help mining. Maybe in whs? The tractor beam will be really great for alt salvagers for missions/anoms. Have an alt pop a tractor at the finished room or loc and just launch salvage drones. Go afk or alt tab to main toon. Come back and scoop cans.

Good point, I forget I mine with an orca alt so they aren't that useful when you have a mobile mini-station.