EVE General Discussion

Please list for those of us that aren't "in the know" the features you are stating have been hemorrhaged. I am still attempting to put together the timeline of events that leads people to believe CCP is removing things from the game. If you could help me with this that would be great. Dates, times and proof of such things is important. After all, if CCP is refunding only the SP of those scammed by Erotica 1 I do not see that as an issue for anyone but those people, since it's unlikely that they have any impact on the gameplay of others. If, however, you have evidence of CCP systematically refunding the SP of players involved in events that impact large portions of the playerbase, please share it with us so that we can make a stand and stop such activity. And if it is a single instance of a single player being given a singular reimbursement, please explain to us how that constitutes the "hemorrhaging" of features. Thank you!

No,

Do turkeys vote for Christmas?

I will vote for someone who will represent me and others like me at the CSM.

As I'm not into griefing, scamming or any of the other aspects of the game that Erotica1 or alts stand for then no.

The trouble is as the saying goes "The squeaky wheel gets the grease." So we''ll see.

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Erotica generates generous amounts of content and understands the true spirit of Eve Online.

No, the "code" is not creating content, i can't hate on Ero for his scamming, because honestly, you should know better than to fall for it.

But the whole new order bull is exactly that, bull.

It is nothing more than extortion of people weaker than you, sorry, i don't buy the hype.

Extortion is content.

They do.

Your definizion of content is either flawed, or you diaregard it as content,
because you don't like it.

Creating player interaction equals creating content. Every time somebody does something
that affects others, it's content creation. Some do it more than others, many do it
without realising it.


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Typing on phone.
Keep them.

This is not some Supreme Court case wherein the assenting majority set down guidelines that all future, similar cases should be judged by. This is a petition between CCP and an individual customer, which CCP has always made clear are judged on a case by case basis. There are, of course, overarching guidelines that CCP has set down in an attempt to make clear what their general ideals are, but these are just general, non-specific guidelines and again they have made it exceptionally clear that the final say still rests with them. Now if this was a precedent there would be evidence of them having changed the guidelines by which individual petitions are handled and/or revised the EULA/TOS to reflect these new guidelines. Second, your and your friend's incessant need to call this a EULA violation based solely upon what the the guy said is getting tiresome. The only evidence you have of account sharing is that the guy said it wasn't his alt, though it is more than likely he was just attempting to hide assets from Eortica 1 so that when he lost(as all but 2 of the Bonus Room participants have) he would have a buffer to fall back on. I have asked again and again for the proof of this account sharing, and again and again I have been told that I am either not listening, not capable of comprehending the obvious or that I am an alt of Heavy Rayne. Let me ask again, where is this proof that you have? And please, do not link the hearsay that you have previously presented as fact.

Also, I'm more than willing to not call you a whiner if you're willing to list for me the gameplay features that have been hemorrhaged. However, if the only one you can provide is this singular instance of generosity, or some generalization that HiSec has become safer, I'm afraid my offer will be revoked.

And finally, the argument that a single case of generosity by CCP and/or their employees is not just that, a single case of generosity, but instead evidence of some kind of coddling of a specific playerbase over another is in no way a logical stance. By that judgement the fact that my repeated requests to have reinforcement timers, local in null and structures pinging when they are under attack removed, as well as the addition of penalties for blob fleets added, is evidence of CCP coddling large Sov holding NullSec groups. I thank you for your support of my ideas for a better EVE, but I do not believe that their lack of response to them constitutes in any way a show of favoritism and I would further thank you for not spreading such malicious lies. EVE as a whole is best served when we present only the facts, speak only in truths and act only with reason.

Send me 50M-500M, get 2 votes back.

Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3 votes back.

Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5 votes back!


Eve's only truly honest vote doubling business! Don't waste time with scammers and their bs! This is not charity but a business that is funded by those who cannot follow these simple rules, so I rarely have to dip into my own reserves. I make my votes from those that fail to read rules here, that is what separates me from the scammers.

I noticed that your questions seem to have gone overlooked, so without trying to derail the thread I thought I would say something to them.

1. Not much, actually. The CSM are elected player representatives to the game developer. They are supposed to help CCP develop game content that the player community can get excited about. However, CCP is free to ignore their ideas and usually does. Those CSMs that are well liked by CCP, or that are willing to just go with the flow, also get a free trip to Iceland. It is unlikely that they would offer this to Erotica1, because she has a specific and meaningful agenda (which CCP does not like). Electing a CSM candidate is primarily a symbolic gesture to advocate for play styles that you like.

2. I'll let Erotica1 answer that if she has the time. I would just like to mention that people dump on mining and missions because they are the least interesting aspects of the game. At no point in your EVE career are you required to do these things . Feel free to contact me if you want some better ideas of how new players can enjoy EVE.

How does one go about knowing whether that new character is a new player or simply an old player with a new character?

Anyone could start a new account and claim that they are a new player.


As a new player myself, I think that new people are being done a disservice when they are led to believe that EvE is a safe, scam free environment.

In my short time as a member of the New Order, I have found many players (most older than my character) who seem to believe:

-That Highsec is safe and you cannot lose a ship in it

-That scams are against the rules

-That tanking a ship is unnecessary

All are dangerous misconceptions about the game.

Someone who leaves the game after learning that their misconceptions aren't true, probably wouldn't have stayed in the game very long anyway.

After all, what game did they think they were joining anyway?