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Loot drops nerfed across the board?

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Jonas Staal
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2013-11-08 11:50:55 UTC
If anything, drops should be reduced.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2013-11-08 12:24:59 UTC
Jonas Staal wrote:
If anything, drops should be reduced.

Agreed.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#43 - 2013-11-08 12:35:00 UTC
Jonas Staal wrote:
If anything, drops should be reduced.


nope. It makes the no drop streaks disproportionately longer (see repeated threads complaining about 8/10 drop streaks), including this very thread.




Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-11-08 12:47:31 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
Jonas Staal wrote:
If anything, drops should be reduced.


nope. It makes the no drop streaks disproportionately longer (see repeated threads complaining about 8/10 drop streaks), including this very thread.

I'm still not getting any of these no drop streaks Tauranon. Even when I don't get an A-Type or a BPC I get an OE and great bounties. But I usually get A-types and BPC's.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#45 - 2013-11-08 13:30:26 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:

Who said anything about CCP. We're telling you that you are wrong about the activity we are enjoying. Sorry if you don't like it, you could always play a game other than EVE. If loot drops from exploration were broken, I'd be scremaing at CCP about it. It's not, so I'm not.

Last time I looked, I was paying CCP, not the other way around, so why anyone would need to believe that simply telling the truth against Crimsons lies is being a "lap dog" is beyond me. How could any adult be so serioulsy immature and wrong?


Heh, I keep asking myself the same question about you. Since you have no verified facts to back up your statements either that would make you a liar as well. Conducting Exploration in an upgraded null sec area is definitely not the same as it is elsewhere.

Also stop trying to portray me as the only one who is complaining about Exploration being nerfed. Other players who notice it post these threads asking about it and when people agree with them, you and a couple of your buddies jump in and start insulting those who don't agree with you, all the while claiming everything is better than before and it's just RNG - working as intended..

That's nothing more than a feeble attempt to look like you know what you're talking about when actually you don't know what the numbers should be..

As a paying customer I have every right to post my opinion about the game just like you do. If you and a couple of your friends don't like what I say, too bad. That doesn't give you the right to do personal attacks on me or to tell me to go play 'another game'. Leave the troll remarks in GD or better yet, just go back to that sub-forum if you can't refrain from posting insults.


DMC


Yes, you have every right to be wrong. As i said. If something were nerfed or broken, I'd be leading the charge to iceland to tell CCP "hey, you screwed up my pass time".

Nothing is broken but your (and others) perceptions. And you've demonstrated that tendency before (you seem prone to "Rosy Introspection") , like when you talk about how "there wasn't so much ganking when you started", I remember someone posting a thread from 2008 after you said that, talking about all the ganking going on proving you wrong lol That episode should have encouraged you to revisit your thinking about things, but it doesn't you

And who said yo were the only one that's wrong, Every week someone comes here and posts "omg, loot broken" and you enable them. Whats funny is all the while you're doing that i'm exploring and getting good loot much of the time.

And if you think all I do is "explore" in upgraded systems, you haven't been paying attention to this thread.



The reason why I and others tell people things aren't broken is because they aren't, and all this "omg, I didn't get nothing, this game is broken" crap after doing a couple 8/10s is annoying after a while. So we set them straight, explaining to them the reality of exploration, ie "many times you lose, sometimes you win, occasionally you win BIG".

It has to be this way. If people got great loot all the time, the loot wouldn't be great. If people good useful stuff all the time, Exploration wouldn't be the deep, exciting, mysterious thing it is..

Rather than complain about us who tell this fair-weather explorers the truth, Crimson, you might simply look inward and discover that Exploration just isn't for you.

SFM Hobb3s
Perkone
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-11-08 17:39:51 UTC  |  Edited by: SFM Hobb3s
Random is random.

Just for giggles, here's some stats of my findings.

Up to oddyssey and three weeks before: ran/hijacked 78 gurista outposts. Avg loot 233 mil/site (approx 18bil)

After odyssey, ran 28 assorted 6/7/8 sites in non-upgraded systems avg 200mil loot (all notable loot came from 3 of those, approx 5.6 bil)
ZenThunder
State War Academy
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-11-08 18:31:32 UTC
Random chance can be a really weird thing. Each person has their own 'path' through the random chance jungle and while the odds make it less likely for more than a few people to be lucky or unlucky it does happen and it will happen. I can almost guarantee you there is at least one player in eve that will NEVER get anything nice from exploration sites and one that will almost always get something nice.

Each coin toss has nothing to do with the last one.

If you toss a coin 4 times there are then 16 unique 'coin toss paths', lets assign them to 16 different players.

1000
1001
1010 - why would i even post about exploration sites the drops seem average to me, these other people are nutz
1011
1100
1101
1110
1111 --- WTF exploration sites drop too much lootz
0000 --- WTF exploration sites suck ballz
0001
0010
0011
0100 - hey i think they nerfed exploration sites
0101
0110
0111 - hrmm exploration is a bit too good i think

two of these players will think that every coin toss is head or every coin toss is tails and they will each think the other is lying. the rest of them will think that either coin tosses are 50/50 or that they are 25/75... from their own experience.

Even if you flipped the coin a hundred times there will STILL be a certain number of players who overall get gypped by the coin flip, and get way less drops than the rest.. distributions always have tails and usually *some* poor sucker or lucky sod finds that his overall run is way out on the end of the curve. Its bound to happen and those people are bound to come on the forums and either cry for nerf or buff.. based on their own personal experience.

Other problem is that you don't know where in the distribution you are based on your past performance. You can assume that it is more likely for drop rates to land you closer to the center of the distribution but in reality what will happen will happen - just because you flipped 100 heads in a row doesn't make it any more or less likely to flip another head, or another hundred heads. Sure the continuation from that point has many more 'fair' paths than unfair ones but there is always a finite chance that you could be stuck forever in that run, and you will never know how long it will last.

Probability sucks!



DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2013-11-10 03:46:29 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Yes, you have every right to be wrong. As i said. If something were nerfed or broken, I'd be leading the charge to iceland to tell CCP "hey, you screwed up my pass time".

Nothing is broken but your (and others) perceptions. And you've demonstrated that tendency before (you seem prone to "Rosy Introspection") , like when you talk about how "there wasn't so much ganking when you started", I remember someone posting a thread from 2008 after you said that, talking about all the ganking going on proving you wrong lol That episode should have encouraged you to revisit your thinking about things, but it doesn't you

And who said yo were the only one that's wrong, Every week someone comes here and posts "omg, loot broken" and you enable them. Whats funny is all the while you're doing that i'm exploring and getting good loot much of the time.

And if you think all I do is "explore" in upgraded systems, you haven't been paying attention to this thread.



The reason why I and others tell people things aren't broken is because they aren't, and all this "omg, I didn't get nothing, this game is broken" crap after doing a couple 8/10s is annoying after a while. So we set them straight, explaining to them the reality of exploration, ie "many times you lose, sometimes you win, occasionally you win BIG".

It has to be this way. If people got great loot all the time, the loot wouldn't be great. If people good useful stuff all the time, Exploration wouldn't be the deep, exciting, mysterious thing it is..

Rather than complain about us who tell this fair-weather explorers the truth, Crimson, you might simply look inward and discover that Exploration just isn't for you.

Heh, 'Rosy Introspection'? I believe the term you're looking for is actually 'Rosy Retrospection' which fit's you and your couple of buddies perfectly. Next time do some research first before posting more of your BS. Not only are you posting incorrect statements, you're also very good at twisting facts around as well as redirecting attention in an attempt to prove yourself right and justify your twisted sense of reality.

In other words, your version of the truth is vastly distorted and incorrect as usual.

Like about this ganking issue, I never said it didn't happen. I said there wasn't nearly as much high sec suicide ganking compared to what is happening in the game now. If you say there was, then you're not only an A-hole, which everyone can plainly see, you're also a liar. As for this so-called thread that proved me wrong, please link it or stfu. Also this supposedly one single thread from 2008 about someone getting ganked doesn't prove anything. In fact I'm sure there's probably a couple of threads created back in 2003 about that very same issue. Doesn't mean squat.

I will admit one thing, you really know how to do a troll rant. You do an excellent job of constantly stroking your own EPEEN while trying to insult and demean others at the same time. Word of advice, best to drop it now or better yet, take that crap with you back to GD where you belong.


DMC
Good Posting
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-11-10 13:34:23 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:


Rather than complain about us who tell this fair-weather explorers the truth, Crimson, you might simply look inward and discover that Exploration just isn't for you.



You know that DMC is always sharing good info and helping new & old players with his exploration experiences. I'm an explorer too and i can confirm this.

What do you do, other than "ahaha i get the good drops and you don't, na na naa na *teases with a pith hardener*". Come on, i have nothing against you, but that quote is a blatant trolling attempt.


Czeris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-11-11 02:51:53 UTC
You guys should stop picking on DMC. The newbies he normally spouts his "facts" to in his 5 year newbie corp never criticize him like this.

I, too, have been doing exploration since 2009. Nothing has changed (we are talking about DED/combat sites and their related loot drops) with drop rate, or the RNG.

I can take a screenshot of the hundreds of Dewak's Decoders and pages of deadspace/complex loot that I hoard like an Autistic Miser if you want some verification.

Actual real stats and records completely refute his claims. No, keeping a list of the sites you found and ran actually has nothing at all to do with the subject at hand, which is drop rates. If you have kept a spreadsheet since 2008 (or even since the changes to exploration in 2009) that lists what sites you ran, and what dropped (and when), I, and I think everyone else in this thread would really love to see it, since that's some very useful data. But you don't have that data, or you would actually be able to see that your (DMC) claims are complete bs. Please prove me wrong. I will hail you as the Golden God of Exploration and Wisdom forevermore if you produce such a spreadsheet.

The Markets tab is really your friend. Whenever CCP makes a major supply change of any item, there is a distinct, abrupt blip on the graph. The smooth declines (and inclines for some items), cyclical ups and downs, and trends based on easy to observe usage rates suggest that there has been no change in DED/Combat loot drop rates.

Czeris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#51 - 2013-11-11 02:58:21 UTC
Karma Codolle wrote:


Exactly, i'm 3 years old and explo has been my primary profession and I can recognize a simple bad run and when something seems off.

My biggest issue isn't crap loot, i'd be fine with that. Like oh well i got crap, but i'm getting empty cans and wrecks. Not even crap to reprocess. I pull better loot and salvage off frigate and cruiser belt rats
and I have access to 4 different regions including null npc space.


Having empty wrecks is just the most disheartening thing to me in exploration, i dont care about the value but they should never be empty this often.


This is well-documented and intended. Meta 0-4 loot drops from regular Mission and complex rats were nerfed into the ground years ago. Belt rats retain the old loot pre-nerf tables, which was a concession to some dudes at the time who derived their income solely from belt ratting. To see how messed up that was, find a nice multiple belt system, spend a few hours belt ratting and see how much meta loot you can scoop. Now expand that to every mission runner in hisec.

With the increased prices on a lot of Meta mods, belt ratting is actually not as **** income (in deep Nullsec) as it has been. In fact if I only have 5-10 minutes to spend on Eve, that's what I do.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#52 - 2013-11-11 04:09:09 UTC
Good Posting wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


Rather than complain about us who tell this fair-weather explorers the truth, Crimson, you might simply look inward and discover that Exploration just isn't for you.



You know that DMC is always sharing good info and helping new & old players with his exploration experiences. I'm an explorer too and i can confirm this.

What do you do, other than "ahaha i get the good drops and you don't, na na naa na *teases with a pith hardener*". Come on, i have nothing against you, but that quote is a blatant trolling attempt.




What i do is tell the truth. Doing things with noobs is not the subject of this thread, loot drops are. DMC is incorrect about them. Period.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2013-11-11 06:19:51 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Czeris wrote:
You guys should stop picking on DMC. The newbies he normally spouts his "facts" to in his 5 year newbie corp never criticize him like this.

I, too, have been doing exploration since 2009. Nothing has changed (we are talking about DED/combat sites and their related loot drops) with drop rate, or the RNG.

I can take a screenshot of the hundreds of Dewak's Decoders and pages of deadspace/complex loot that I hoard like an Autistic Miser if you want some verification.

Actual real stats and records completely refute his claims. No, keeping a list of the sites you found and ran actually has nothing at all to do with the subject at hand, which is drop rates. If you have kept a spreadsheet since 2008 (or even since the changes to exploration in 2009) that lists what sites you ran, and what dropped (and when), I, and I think everyone else in this thread would really love to see it, since that's some very useful data. But you don't have that data, or you would actually be able to see that your (DMC) claims are complete bs. Please prove me wrong. I will hail you as the Golden God of Exploration and Wisdom forevermore if you produce such a spreadsheet.

The Markets tab is really your friend. Whenever CCP makes a major supply change of any item, there is a distinct, abrupt blip on the graph. The smooth declines (and inclines for some items), cyclical ups and downs, and trends based on easy to observe usage rates suggest that there has been no change in DED/Combat loot drop rates.


This post as well as this thread is a perfect example of what happens when a CFC comrade in need asks for help. Goons and alts rally to the call and start gang banging and spam posting BS replies, like this one I just quoted. Most of them rarely ever post in this sub-forum and usually only do it when one of their comrades needs some backup in trying to prove themselves right. That's the oldest trick in the book as well as a typical response. Definitely no surprise either, especially after reviewing their short posting history.

Now to address this latest load of BS. You're nothing but a liar. You don't know me nor do you know what I say in corp chat. In fact, you don't even know when I log into the game. Gawd, you peeps are really transparent. Go back to school and learn how to meta-game forums correctly before posting your crap here.

As for your records I'll say the same thing to you as I said to your comrade Genocide. Please provide substantial documented evidence proving me wrong or stfu. By the way, a screen shot of a bunch of Faction / Deadspace loot doesn't prove anything. And if you do decide to create a 'Spreadsheet', make sure you can verify all the dates and loot drops from 2009 to present day with another source, ie. in-game screen shots.

Lol

Good luck with that. I'll bet my entire wallet that nobody can provide that type of evidence. If someone does provide it and proves me wrong, I will gladly bow down and worship them as the All-Knowing Gods Of Exploration.

Anyway, I'm done wasting my time with a bunch of BS forum warriors who act like they have a direct link to CCP and think they know for a fact what is or isn't happening with this game behind the scenes. By the way, your comrade Genocide is still incorrect.


DMC
Czeris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-11-11 06:42:40 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Czeris wrote:
You guys should stop picking on DMC. The newbies he normally spouts his "facts" to in his 5 year newbie corp never criticize him like this.

I, too, have been doing exploration since 2009. Nothing has changed (we are talking about DED/combat sites and their related loot drops) with drop rate, or the RNG.

I can take a screenshot of the hundreds of Dewak's Decoders and pages of deadspace/complex loot that I hoard like an Autistic Miser if you want some verification.

Actual real stats and records completely refute his claims. No, keeping a list of the sites you found and ran actually has nothing at all to do with the subject at hand, which is drop rates. If you have kept a spreadsheet since 2008 (or even since the changes to exploration in 2009) that lists what sites you ran, and what dropped (and when), I, and I think everyone else in this thread would really love to see it, since that's some very useful data. But you don't have that data, or you would actually be able to see that your (DMC) claims are complete bs. Please prove me wrong. I will hail you as the Golden God of Exploration and Wisdom forevermore if you produce such a spreadsheet.

The Markets tab is really your friend. Whenever CCP makes a major supply change of any item, there is a distinct, abrupt blip on the graph. The smooth declines (and inclines for some items), cyclical ups and downs, and trends based on easy to observe usage rates suggest that there has been no change in DED/Combat loot drop rates.


This post as well as this thread is a perfect example of what happens when a CFC comrade in need asks for help. Goons and alts rally to the call and start gang banging and spam posting BS replies, like this one I just quoted. Most of them rarely ever post in this sub-forum and usually only do it when one of their comrades needs some backup in trying to prove themselves right. That's the oldest trick in the book as well as a typical response. Definitely no surprise either, especially after reviewing their short posting history.

Now to address this latest load of BS. You're nothing but a liar. You don't know me nor do you know what I say in corp chat. In fact, you don't even know when I log into the game. Gawd, you peeps are really transparent. Go back to school and learn how to meta-game forums correctly before posting your crap here.

As for your records I'll say the same thing to you as I said to your comrade Genocide. Please provide substantial documented evidence proving me wrong or stfu. By the way, a screen shot of a bunch of Faction / Deadspace loot doesn't prove anything. And if you do decide to create a 'Spreadsheet', make sure you can verify all the dates and loot drops from 2009 to present day with another source, ie. in-game screen shots.

Lol

Good luck with that. I'll bet my entire wallet that nobody can provide that type of evidence. If someone does provide it and proves me wrong, I will gladly bow down and worship them as the All-Knowing Gods Of Exploration.

Anyway, I'm done wasting my time with a bunch of BS forum warriors who act like they have a direct link to CCP and think they know for a fact what is or isn't happening with this game behind the scenes. By the way, your comrade Genocide is still incorrect.


DMC


Hey man,

I don't actually know any of the other posters in this thread, nor do I care what alliance they are in. My market alt is in your newbie corp, so I have in fact watched you spout off in your own corp chat on numerous occasions.

I do not record my loot drops in a spreadsheet. However, I also do not repeatedly state things in multiple threads over the years that I can't back up with evidence, and preach it like it is the holy gospel. You have no facts to back up your strong assertions, yet you argue with people in this very thread that actually do have (limited) numbers to back themselves up. I get that you derive a lot of self worth from the admiring coos of newbies in your corp chat and that it's a bit of a glass of cold water when you don't get it.
Gimme more Cynos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-11-11 11:38:51 UTC
My Gawd,

I hate to break it to all of you, but: all you can do is making assumptions based on limited experience. Noone can be right on this topic without hard numbers from CCP.

Arrow stop bitching, grab each others hands and do the stuff you normally do.

Blasto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-11-11 19:16:38 UTC
Quote:


So you're saying that doing things is hard and If I don't do them no one does. There's even tools in the making like "Eve-loot-calculator", you can copy and paste into simple Google Spreadsheet.

You can't be serious with this post can you?

Edit: Ok, who's trolling me with this one day old Alt "Blasto"?


You took a screenshot of a tool related to your claim. Next time take the screenshot of the data you claim to have with this tool.

P.S.
Check my employment history. This 'Alt' is from 2004 <---------. Any questions?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2013-11-12 07:44:23 UTC
Czeris wrote:
Hey man,

I don't actually know any of the other posters in this thread, nor do I care what alliance they are in. My market alt is in your newbie corp, so I have in fact watched you spout off in your own corp chat on numerous occasions.

I do not record my loot drops in a spreadsheet. However, I also do not repeatedly state things in multiple threads over the years that I can't back up with evidence, and preach it like it is the holy gospel. You have no facts to back up your strong assertions, yet you argue with people in this very thread that actually do have (limited) numbers to back themselves up. I get that you derive a lot of self worth from the admiring coos of newbies in your corp chat and that it's a bit of a glass of cold water when you don't get it.

GAWD, you just won't give up spouting more BS.

What character is that (name conveniently omitted) and more importantly, just exactly what do I 'spout off' in Corp chat?

If you really did have a character in the same corp, then you'd know for a fact about the only things I say to new players in RUN corp chat is to complete all 5 Career Agents first to get a good jumpstart into Eve. After that I advise them to do the level 1 SoE Epic Arc to give them some time to decide which career path they want to pursue while training up the basic core fitting skills and making some ISK. That's about it aside from linking Evelopedia pages to answer questions and help with some basic ship fits.

Hell, what I find really strange is that within this past year I've rarely accessed RUN corp channel yet you swear up and down that I constantly 'spout' stuff in corp chat. In the first 4 months of this past year I was offline and in these past 7 months I've rarely logged into the game, average about 4 to 6 hours per week, maybe a weekend or 2 each month if that, all my log in's are at different time frames as well. Mostly I log in to do skill changes and if I have some extra time I'll do a little bit of exploration. Not to mention I have 6 other active chat channels open which I usually spend the majority of my time in.

Also for some reason you seem to think over the years I've always said exploration / loot drops are nerfed. Quite the contrary. Before this past year I was a staunch supporter of exploration rewards RNG working fine and great. When others complained about not getting anything I would tell them to do more sites or change areas. Course if you had bothered to do some research then you'd know that.

Obviously you're full of BS and as such I'm done with you as well. Please take your lies elsewhere.


DMC
Czeris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2013-11-12 09:06:03 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Czeris wrote:
Hey man,

I don't actually know any of the other posters in this thread, nor do I care what alliance they are in. My market alt is in your newbie corp, so I have in fact watched you spout off in your own corp chat on numerous occasions.

I do not record my loot drops in a spreadsheet. However, I also do not repeatedly state things in multiple threads over the years that I can't back up with evidence, and preach it like it is the holy gospel. You have no facts to back up your strong assertions, yet you argue with people in this very thread that actually do have (limited) numbers to back themselves up. I get that you derive a lot of self worth from the admiring coos of newbies in your corp chat and that it's a bit of a glass of cold water when you don't get it.

GAWD, you just won't give up spouting more BS.

What character is that (name conveniently omitted) and more importantly, just exactly what do I 'spout off' in Corp chat?

If you really did have a character in the same corp, then you'd know for a fact about the only things I say to new players in RUN corp chat is to complete all 5 Career Agents first to get a good jumpstart into Eve. After that I advise them to do the level 1 SoE Epic Arc to give them some time to decide which career path they want to pursue while training up the basic core fitting skills and making some ISK. That's about it aside from linking Evelopedia pages to answer questions and help with some basic ship fits.

Hell, what I find really strange is that within this past year I've rarely accessed RUN corp channel yet you swear up and down that I constantly 'spout' stuff in corp chat. In the first 4 months of this past year I was offline and in these past 7 months I've rarely logged into the game, average about 4 to 6 hours per week, maybe a weekend or 2 each month if that, all my log in's are at different time frames as well. Mostly I log in to do skill changes and if I have some extra time I'll do a little bit of exploration. Not to mention I have 6 other active chat channels open which I usually spend the majority of my time in.

Also for some reason you seem to think over the years I've always said exploration / loot drops are nerfed. Quite the contrary. Before this past year I was a staunch supporter of exploration rewards RNG working fine and great. When others complained about not getting anything I would tell them to do more sites or change areas. Course if you had bothered to do some research then you'd know that.

Obviously you're full of BS and as such I'm done with you as well. Please take your lies elsewhere.


DMC


My lies? Please point one out. My alt, who shall continue to remain nameless for a variety of reasons you might not understand being in an NPC corp, has been in RUN for 3 and a half years. I also have not kept a spreadsheet of when, how long, or what exactly the great DeMichael Crimson has said in his NPC corp, however interesting DeMichael Crimson might find this activity. Suffice it to say you have not only talked about the things you mention above.

Please tell us more how your "rarely logged into the game" in 7 months supports your strongly held conviction of a loot nerf. It sounds like a dynamite way of collecting data to support your claims.

I do feel like I am kicking a puppy, which as we all know should be kept in game, so I say, "Good Day" and "Happy Mouthbreathing" to you. Feel free to have as many last words as you need to help you to get to sleep.
Garak n00biachi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-11-12 12:17:14 UTC
This stuff is awesome, keep it coming.....can we get some more personal attacks too and some more "stfu" and "GTFO's".
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#60 - 2013-11-12 13:49:18 UTC
Czeris wrote:


Please tell us more how your "rarely logged into the game" in 7 months supports your strongly held conviction of a loot nerf. It sounds like a dynamite way of collecting data to support your claims.


You noticed that astounding contradiction as well I see.

Well, unlike him, I play every single night. Nothing is broken as far as i can tell. I think he needs to believe the things he says for some crazy reason. But needing to believe something and the truth of that something are 2 different things.