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Anita Too
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-11-01 08:59:10 UTC
Dear Readers,

This is to warn any readers that if you have intended to join Recursive Ascension alliance, please hold off from doing so. The alliance executor SHADOWDRAGUN a.k.a Rose Moonlight ("James") will first station you in a frontline system in Providence, lets you fight the -A- hordes and then claim credit for what your corp did. Eventually he will accuse you of spying (if you are competent) and get you and your corp kicked out of Providence, forcing you to sell off valuable assets for him to purchase.

I find the comments in evewho describes "James" acutely accurate (and it was written 2 years ago) and I believe many before me will agree. I shall not repeat what was written but will provide a link for your reading convenience:

http://evewho.com/pilot/Rose+Moonlight

For those of you who thinks CVA will realize how sinister SHADOWDRAGUN is, I'm afraid to inform you my readers that they haven't and will summarily banish your corp based on what SHADOWDRAGUN told them.

If any Provibloc diplos are reading this, I urge you to conduct an inquiry into this as many loyal servants of the Amarr Empire have been wrongly accused based on false charges and was banished without proper trial. This forced many of us to turn against CVA as we have no choice but to fight in self defence AGAINST the Amarr Empire.

Yours Truly,
AT
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-11-01 16:54:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Donbe Scurred
From your post it seems they probably banished you for being a crybaby Roll
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-11-01 19:43:14 UTC
While I would applaud anyone for creating such an original scam, there is only once response on that link, and it share similarity with your account here. Any individual willing to do their research might be lead to believe that you posted such an account to besmirch Rose Moonlight's name. Obviously you have a terrible vendetta against this individual to carry on this attempt over a two year period.

I would be willing to reassess the evidence if it were more complete.

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Master Chang9
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-11-03 15:03:37 UTC
Good day to you gents, I am an ex-member of RA and just wanted to put in my two cents on this forum post. I will be highlighting below Shadow's problems, being that he is the exec of the alliance and there is no other important people there due to the fact that he gives nobody else in alliance positions of power with authority himself.


Shadow's Leadership skills
This is Shadow's second time running an alliance in Eve, his first one faltering after not paying alliance bills, I would even go to the lengths to say it was due to his KB efficiency as a PvP alliance, his first alliance made being Recursive Assension lol.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=5715 . Shadow allows people in alliance no positions of power in which he is the all mighty, not others. Shadow has 7 alt corps of his in alliance that he called directors and gave people the false presumption that his alliance is strong, in which it isn't. Shadow himself has a terrible habit of acting like a big **** when really he isn't anything, this will describe him well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKKtnSVeY9o He likes to brag how he has lead 1000 man fleets yet he can't even use D-SCAN and doesn't even know how to bubble properly, which is hillarious to watch. Shadow loves to kick corps from alliance, two examples which were -House of Nim-Lach and L0s Zetos. There was no reputable proof of them spying, but Shadow is paranoid and any negative sign in a character shows spying lol, no **** here. I believe everyone at one point in alliance has been accused of spying, Shadow loves doing this I'd even be arsed to say it's a hobby of his. Shadow thinks with 20 men online he can take Catch WITH CVA BACKING, why would CVA even back a small ass alliance like yours that can only scramble 10 men at once to PvP and take Catch.... I'd advise that anyone that is going to enter RA reconsider, there is many more useful alliances out there. On that note, while in RA you cannot go outside Provi to PvP, if you do anything outside PRovi you are causing "dessension" in the alliance so I wouldn't try that. Btw, if you want a SRP program in alliance have fun getting your isk, it'll take about 2 weeks just to get a BC reimbursment back due to Shadow being alliance exec and all. We had a moment in alliance which Shadow had to leave for a week and a half due to breaking his arms and fingers after cheating on his wife with two woman, in which one of the woman's boyfriend found out and promptly beat the **** out of him. During that time an awoxer went in alliance and killed blue ****, in which the alliance was set red and couldn't do anything do to the fact that one person controlled the alliance and we had nobody else to fix standings with CVA, so we sat in station for a week waiting. I hope you have more insight on RA after reading this, it really is terrible.
Master Chang9
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-11-03 15:08:21 UTC
I would warn CVA of Shadow's alliance pirate acts, them being NRDS. Here are some links of SUICIDE GANKS in highsec on neutral miners trying to make a living.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20077776

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20092017

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20075401

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20075400

These acts were allowed by Shadow himself, he is also allowing alliance members to destroy neutral POCO'S in lowsec, another act of aggression not alllowed under NRDS policy.
Paul Tsukaya
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-11-04 00:44:40 UTC
Should you be posting this in the CVA diplo channel rather than in C&P?
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#7 - 2013-11-04 02:20:57 UTC
Master Chang9 wrote:
... cheating on his wife with two women...


Was this separately, or, at the same time?

Because if it was at the same time... that does make him cooler than you.

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Master Chang9
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-11-04 02:42:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Master Chang9
I'd have to say at 50 getting two woman at the same time, I applaud him :) . The question is how much did he pay? Lol.
Master Chang9
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-11-04 21:28:25 UTC
I just wanted to update and show that Recursive Ascension has killed yet 2 other neutral Mackinaws mining in HS.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20320609

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20318568

Thern alpha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-11-11 04:14:36 UTC
who r these cva carebears and y do they matter at all?
xHjfx
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#11 - 2013-11-18 02:02:37 UTC
I can't comment on the internal politics of Recursive Ascension, as frankly I'm not aware of them.

As for Shadow having people banished - No one dictates our KOS policy but ourselves and the rules are listed on our website, evidence is investigated and a call is made.

Regarding the suicide ganks:

Most of them suicide ganks were the action of a rogue pilot who was kicked from their Alliance - however the 2 mackinaws killed in Domain (Amarrian space) shouldn't have been killed as they are neutral as stated.

The explanation was that the pilots were following their FC - Crow.

Recursive Ascension have agreed to reimburse the 2 mackinaws as they were wrongfully killed in Amarrian space and the pilots should have questioned the order to fire on neutral miners.

If you have any future grievances or information then please bring it to the attention of the KOS team or diplomats as listed in cva-diplo.

Kind Regards,

xH
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#12 - 2013-11-18 09:26:27 UTC

This whole KOS list/NBDS (which I've been on forever lol) seems like a lot of excess paperwork shuffling to me. Why not just let things relax a little and shoot everyone?

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-11-18 11:05:49 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:

This whole KOS list/NRDS (which I've been on forever lol) seems like a lot of excess paperwork shuffling to me. Why not just let things relax a little and shoot everyone?


Fixed your post for you.

And dont worry about us Ero, CVA has been at it for 10 years now, we are kinda getting the hang of this NRDS thing.

Besides, shouldnt The New Order have alot of paperwork shuffling aswell, or are you admitting that The New Order doesnt keep records of who pays their fee and who doesnt?

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#14 - 2013-11-18 11:42:28 UTC
xHjfx wrote:
I can't comment on the internal politics of Recursive Ascension, as frankly I'm not aware of them.

As for Shadow having people banished - No one dictates our KOS policy but ourselves and the rules are listed on our website, evidence is investigated and a call is made.

Regarding the suicide ganks:

Most of them suicide ganks were the action of a rogue pilot who was kicked from their Alliance - however the 2 mackinaws killed in Domain (Amarrian space) shouldn't have been killed as they are neutral as stated.

The explanation was that the pilots were following their FC - Crow.

Recursive Ascension have agreed to reimburse the 2 mackinaws as they were wrongfully killed in Amarrian space and the pilots should have questioned the order to fire on neutral miners.

If you have any future grievances or information then please bring it to the attention of the KOS team or diplomats as listed in cva-diplo.

Kind Regards,

xH


After the recent scandals, why should anyone believe anything anyone in CVA says, ever?

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Antony E Stark
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-11-18 11:50:48 UTC
Master Chang9 wrote:
after cheating on his wife with two woman, in which one of the woman's boyfriend found out and promptly beat the **** out of him.


This is perhaps the most interesting part of this thread, the rest, not so much. I for one would love to know how this epic story turned out. Did he;

A. Beg for forgiveness and return to his wife
B. Run off with the 1st woman
C. Run off with the 2nd woman
D. Run off with both of them
E. Make his own harem and take his pick
F. Look for another 4 to achieve his goal of "one for each day"
G. Become a dog and constantly dry jump the post mans leg
Naydra Adni
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-11-18 12:09:51 UTC
"Besides, shouldnt The New Order have alot of paperwork shuffling aswell, or are you admitting that The New Order doesnt keep records of who pays their fee and who doesnt?"

don't be so hard on him/her.. s/he's got a lot of paperwork of their own to do.. keeping that photo database in order.
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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-11-18 20:42:11 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
xHjfx wrote:
I can't comment on the internal politics of Recursive Ascension, as frankly I'm not aware of them.

As for Shadow having people banished - No one dictates our KOS policy but ourselves and the rules are listed on our website, evidence is investigated and a call is made.

Regarding the suicide ganks:

Most of them suicide ganks were the action of a rogue pilot who was kicked from their Alliance - however the 2 mackinaws killed in Domain (Amarrian space) shouldn't have been killed as they are neutral as stated.

The explanation was that the pilots were following their FC - Crow.

Recursive Ascension have agreed to reimburse the 2 mackinaws as they were wrongfully killed in Amarrian space and the pilots should have questioned the order to fire on neutral miners.

If you have any future grievances or information then please bring it to the attention of the KOS team or diplomats as listed in cva-diplo.

Kind Regards,

xH


After the recent scandals, why should anyone believe anything anyone in CVA says, ever?

Recent scandals? do elaborate.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#18 - 2013-11-18 22:25:12 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:

This whole KOS list/NRDS (which I've been on forever lol) seems like a lot of excess paperwork shuffling to me. Why not just let things relax a little and shoot everyone?


Considering that even Eve University is on that KOS list (whose members aren´t even allowed into sovereign Null Space, last time I checked), I am pretty sure there aren´t really that many non reds left in Eve that are not to be shot at.....

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Fronty Jia
Kampung Boys
#19 - 2013-11-19 02:17:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Fronty Jia
I should have known about this before i join this Alliance. However, it provide me a good lesson for me and my members. I would said that is not only us who is unfairly been kicked out from the alliance after we being used by him. If you join him is only a matter of time that your corp CEO will be his minions.

Ohh yeah they dont like pirates. Yet they do pirates in Jita. By suiciding ganking. Well done CVA. No pirates in own space but allowed the provi block alliance to do it in high sec.
Anita Too
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-12-17 09:53:30 UTC
xHjfx wrote:
I can't comment on the internal politics of Recursive Ascension, as frankly I'm not aware of them.

As for Shadow having people banished - No one dictates our KOS policy but ourselves and the rules are listed on our website, evidence is investigated and a call is made.

Regarding the suicide ganks:

Most of them suicide ganks were the action of a rogue pilot who was kicked from their Alliance - however the 2 mackinaws killed in Domain (Amarrian space) shouldn't have been killed as they are neutral as stated.

The explanation was that the pilots were following their FC - Crow.

Recursive Ascension have agreed to reimburse the 2 mackinaws as they were wrongfully killed in Amarrian space and the pilots should have questioned the order to fire on neutral miners.

If you have any future grievances or information then please bring it to the attention of the KOS team or diplomats as listed in cva-diplo.

Kind Regards,

xH


Thank you for your reply. It is much appreciated but peace was not offered and justice was not served and thus, we shall continue our harassment of Recursive Ascension and by extension CVA assets until SHADOWDRAGUN and his alliance leaves Providence. It is a sad day where loyal Amarrs are forced to point guns at each other to eliminate a villain.
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