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150B Bond - Collateralized w/ Guardian-Vexor & Chribba - FULL
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mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#1 - 2013-11-08 20:37:55 UTC  |  Edited by: mechtech
BOND FULL

Update: Return boosted from 1.2% to 2%!

Bond Overview: 5 month fixed term, 10% fixed return. Interest paid up front after bond fills. The bond has the healthy collateral of a Guardian-Vexor and 600 battleships held by Chribba. Chribba has confirmed receiving collateral below.

About Me: I've been a trader/industrialist and fairly active in the MD community since 2005. Here is a link to my last (similar) public bond: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3347495#post3347495
This bond serves to put a few of my longer term investments to work.

Terms
_________________________________________________________
Bond Size - 150 Billion
Duration - 5 month fixed term.
Interest Rate - 10% fixed return on investment. Interest will be paid up front for convenience.
Collateral - 1x Guardian-Vexor and 600 Armageddons held by Chribba.
Minimum Investment - 5B
_____________________________________________________________________________

Please post any questions you may have in this thread. Make reservations in this thread if possible, and I can also be contacted in game by convo/mail or in channel (ASCII code) Alt250. Please only reserve a chunk if you actually have the isk available on an immediate basis, thank you.


Current Investor Reservations:
Grendell 40B
Vaerah Vahrokha 20B
Flakeys 50B
Gihl Steghern 20B
Kaputt 20B

Backup investors:
Oculi Magni

0B available
flakeys
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-11-08 21:04:18 UTC
So it's 7.5 % over 6 month so approx 1.2 % a month .Did i get this right ?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#3 - 2013-11-08 21:11:11 UTC
flakeys wrote:
So it's 7.5 % over 6 month so approx 1.2 % a month .Did i get this right ?


Correct, although the entire 7.5% will be paid up front in this case.
Blueprint Seller
Bring Me Sunshine
#4 - 2013-11-09 05:50:57 UTC
I'm sorry, but 1.2% is too low for me.
flakeys
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-11-09 09:26:42 UTC
Blueprint Seller wrote:
I'm sorry, but 1.2% is too low for me.




Same here , the 2% that's is normal these days for large secured ones is the bottom i am willing to go.Even those only give a 'bit' of return because of the pure size.I got 200+ B with grendell currently for example and that nets me less a month then my only trade character that is left wich only uses 15 B and needs to be updated 10 minutes a week at most.


If you decide to up it to 2 % then you can count me in for 50 B , otherwise good luck.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#6 - 2013-11-09 11:46:33 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Blueprint Seller wrote:
I'm sorry, but 1.2% is too low for me.


Same here , the 2% that's is normal these days for large secured ones is the bottom i am willing to go.Even those only give a 'bit' of return because of the pure size.I got 200+ B with grendell currently for example and that nets me less a month then my only trade character that is left wich only uses 15 B and needs to be updated 10 minutes a week at most.

If you decide to up it to 2 % then you can count me in for 50 B , otherwise good luck.


I wish I could like x 10.

Flakeys, WE are the market (bonds in this case), WE are living the fantastic and mysterious "price discovery" moment.
A bottom has been reached and those who recall my "EvEBOR" talks of past years will see how it all snaps together.


As I said here,

Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

Therefore and after much sweating at liquidating hordes of crap, I have decided to not accept < 8% overcollateral loans nor to finance anyone so miserable to not offer 2,5 - 3% interest a month.


The good thing of laziness is that large investors like me are so lazy that will settle for low interest rates because after all it's "AFK ISK".

The bad thing of laziness is that large investors like me are so lazy that will settle for not investing at all when the effort of logging in to send ISK is greater than the reward.

I am willing to invest 30-40B at 2.5%, 20B at 2%, 0% for less than that.

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mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#7 - 2013-11-09 14:47:52 UTC
The market has spoken.

Interest rate increased from 1.2% to 2%. Bond size slightly decreased to 150B. Collateral changed to 1 GV + 600 Armageddons.
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#8 - 2013-11-09 14:50:08 UTC
Can put me down for 40 once Chribba confirms.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#9 - 2013-11-09 14:56:18 UTC
Please put me down for 20B once Chribba confirms.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-11-09 15:15:07 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
flakeys wrote:



If you decide to up it to 2 % then you can count me in for 50 B , otherwise good luck.




So put me dow for 50 B then please Blink


Edit : Ow and on a sidenote as you changed the interest rate i would not mind to getting a payment each month instead of everything up front to give you a bit more '' working isk'' . But that offcourse is your own choice.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#11 - 2013-11-09 16:20:29 UTC
Guardian Vexor +600 BS. Wow. Sometimes I love the crap outta this game. This is similar to someone putting up Great Britain as collateral on a loan. Awesome.

/I've got 100 mil to throw in . . . (Not really, I'm probably going to lose another BC soon, because I am a terrible pilot)
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#12 - 2013-11-09 16:21:18 UTC
mechtech wrote:
Update: Return boosted from 1.2% to a more standard 2%!

Bond Overview: 6 month fixed term, 20% fixed return. Interest paid up front after bond fills. The bond has the healthy collateral of a Guardian-Vexor and 1095 battleships held by Chribba. Collateral is contracted to Chribba and he will post here after he accepts the contracts.

About Me: I've been a trader/industrialist and fairly active in the MD community since 2005. Here is a link to my last (similar) public bond: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3347495#post3347495
This bond serves to put a few of my longer term investments to work.

Terms
_________________________________________________________
Bond Size - 150 Billion
Duration - 6 month fixed term.
Interest Rate - 10% fixed return on investment. Interest will be paid up front for convenience.
Collateral - 1x Guardian-Vexor and 600 Armageddons held by Chribba.
Minimum Investment - 5B
_____________________________________________________________________________

Please post any questions you may have in this thread. Make reservations in this thread if possible, and I can also be contacted in game by convo/mail or in channel (ASCII code) Alt250. Please only reserve a chunk if you actually have the isk available on an immediate basis, thank you.


Current Investor Reservations:
Grendell 40B
Vaerah Vahrokha 20B
Flakeys 50B

40B available

Confirming that I have received 1xGV and 600xArmageddon as collateral for this.

/c

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RAW23
#13 - 2013-11-09 16:22:43 UTC
OllieNorth wrote:
Guardian Vexor +600 BS. Wow. Sometimes I love the crap outta this game. This is similar to someone putting up Great Britain as collateral on a loan. Awesome.



Great Britain

Quote:
Guardian Vexor


AND Northern Ireland

Quote:
600 BS

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those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#14 - 2013-11-09 16:38:03 UTC
OllieNorth wrote:
Guardian Vexor +600 BS. Wow. Sometimes I love the crap outta this game. This is similar to someone putting up Great Britain as collateral on a loan. Awesome.

/I've got 100 mil to throw in . . . (Not really, I'm probably going to lose another BC soon, because I am a terrible pilot)


Yes, that's why I started with a low rate. Should I get hit by a bus or life throws me surprise jailtime, there would be a very nice payout. I'm fairly sure the GV could fetch 125+B alone, assuming it wasn't just thrown up on the sell order forums and actually advertised to the proper space-rich 0.0 dwellers. It looks like only two or so come up for sale every year.

On another note, it would be interesting to explore if the market would pay anything for a financial instrument like this... IE I give two Guardian Vexors to Chribba, and have a payment window that needs to be met a year down the line or else they are liquidated. I bet there would be some people willing to throw in a bil or two on the off chance they get 50x the amount back. Interesting thought, but at the very least this is an aspect of bonds that isn't always taken into account.

Chribba has confirmed collateral and 40B is still available.

Almost full, now's the time to post if you're interested!
flakeys
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-11-09 16:42:27 UTC
50 B send to mechtech

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Gihl Steghern
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-11-09 19:59:44 UTC
Please put me down for 20B.
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#17 - 2013-11-09 21:10:37 UTC
20B left available.
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#18 - 2013-11-09 21:53:18 UTC
Will transfer isk tomorrow night as it's the soonest I can login!

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Oculi Magni
Disintegrate Crew
#19 - 2013-11-09 23:31:38 UTC
I would like to invest 10B, however soonest I can reliable login is monday evening.
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#20 - 2013-11-09 23:45:11 UTC
Oculi Magni wrote:
I would like to invest 10B, however soonest I can reliable login is monday evening.


Alright, I'll note that and add you on the backup list. If the bond is not full by then, or someone backs out, I'll let you know.
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