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Radial Menu - action mapping

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Solhild
Doomheim
#261 - 2013-10-06 07:43:29 UTC
I'd like to see it on linked text in channels.
Depending on item or location, radial menu could be:
Show info
Compare item
Market details
Open contracts
Set destination
Warp to
Dock
Jump
Bookmark
Etc.
Rammix
TheMurk
#262 - 2013-10-08 11:02:33 UTC
Bound it to mouse button 5 with zero delay. Perfect. Using it constantly, loving it. TY. Cool

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Aesheera
Doomheim
#263 - 2013-10-09 13:49:13 UTC
I like the radial menu's.

The only thing I personally would like to see changed is that D-scan is no longer single-click available.

Easily worked around by keeping it open as a window tabbed into f.e. a chatbox, but I liked that old mechanic.

Lastly, an ON/OFF toggle is always welcome.

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Uncle Gagarin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#264 - 2013-10-11 13:10:51 UTC
I don't like radial menu, is it somehow possible to turn it off ?

BR,
Uncle
Robert Bane
Rogue Resource Reavers
#265 - 2013-10-13 05:34:18 UTC
So I am starting to like the radials.

I am particularly fond of the Scanner radial menu.

It would be really AWESOME if we had something similar to the scanner radial for the Cargo icon. With more ships getting proprietary holds it would be nice to have easier access to the hold I wanted.
Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#266 - 2013-10-13 18:49:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ubat Batuk
Radial menu: never used but it's always in the way of what I want to do. A way to disable it would be great. I am sure some people will love it. I do not find it useful with my play style. On the scanner menu I am fine with it. Thank you.
Dav Varan
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#267 - 2013-10-15 13:14:26 UTC
Take it off the scanner button.

Menus off buttons are horrible.

in every ui I can think of Buttons perform actions not offer choices.

Buttons are for primary functions that happen straight away.
Saladin
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#268 - 2013-10-18 12:00:25 UTC
I have issues with the odyssey radial menu that I have found very frustrating vs previous versions. I am mentioning the issues in the order they occur. The level of frustration caused can be likened to a intense desire to punch the screen:

1. Accuracy: I could be clicking an item in space and it instead pulls up the radial menu for the ship. So I click and hold on say, a can or station and instead it brings up the ship specific radial menu

2. Changing default settings: The radial menu should be for quick decision or quick menu items, it should NEVER include options like setting the default orbit, keep at range, or warp distance. These settings reflect strategic flight settings and should be available through a right click menu, but not through a radial menu. Plus the radial menu will never allow the precision of an entered value.

3. Not being able to abort a selection: Perfect Storm of issues 1 & 2. You click in space on something else but your ship radial menu shows up. But you don't realize this right away as your muscle memory moves to the option for warp or dock, and instead you find yourself setting the new default warp in distance on your ship. You haven't released the mouse click yet and you realize you are about to make a mistake, so you move the cursor away from the radial menu and release. Instead of aborting the action, it goes ahead and changes your default warp-in distance. You now have to go to your warp settings and change it back to zero.

FInally, decisions on the radial menu, its format, what should and shouldn't be there, should be subject to what I call the interceptor test. Imagine yourself flying in an interceptor in a high speed encounter (e.g. chasing down a vagabond) where 'twitch play' or fast response time is critical. In this scenario you want your radial buttons to have relevant options, not stuff like setting default warp.
Anthar Thebess
#269 - 2013-10-31 09:17:20 UTC
When i quickly click between locket targets sometimes this radial menu popups, and often im choosing some unwanted action.
All of this in less than half second.
Can someone fix/rethink this radial menu?
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#270 - 2013-10-31 09:33:18 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
When i quickly click between locket targets sometimes this radial menu popups, and often im choosing some unwanted action.
All of this in less than half second.
Can someone fix/rethink this radial menu?

Try increasing the delay (in the ESC menu)

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

Kyalla Ahashion
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#271 - 2013-11-08 22:28:28 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Hi all,

I hope we are all liking Odyssey and all it brings, and of course that we are all using the new Radial Menu Smile

I wanted to check in with you guys, and see if how it was treating you and if you have any comments on the actions we have in it.Smile
  • Have you run into any objects in space that have no primary action but you wish they did?
  • Are there objects that you wished had a different primary action?
  • Do you feel any objects are missing very commonly used actions (either as primary action, or in second layer).


We have put a lot of thought into the Radial Menu actions and are fairly happy with it as it is today. We do recognized that we might have missed some actions and would like to hear your thoughts, and then evaluate if we should make some minor changes Smile



Edit: this is not thread about you wanting to disable it, it's already possible to increase the delay and bind it to a different key so it really shouldn't get in your way if you don't want it Smile


Right click (rebindable) to cancel. Not quite intuitive, but at least it's readily available from the mouse.
Friction on the items that pop out to another submenu on the radial so that it takes more deliberate intent to pop these out.
Key bindings for the radial menu (useful for those with fancy multibutton mice)
Option to swap between click and hold and click once and then click a button on the menu (so that accidental long clicks don't accidentally result in "clicks" on unintended actions., particularly that evil screen filling "show info")


Darirol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#272 - 2013-11-09 03:51:44 UTC
you can drag and drop systems/destination station from autopilot list to chat.

since radial menu works on the autopilot list too that drag and drop doesnt work anymore while in space. while docked i can still drag and drop. if i try this in space, the radial menu pops up and i cant drag anything.
Garm Zandor
Thunder Shield
Fraternity.
#273 - 2013-11-09 20:41:05 UTC
Please, implement option to disable radial menu...Ugh
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#274 - 2013-11-09 21:19:58 UTC
Garm Zandor wrote:
Please, implement option to disable radial menu...Ugh


Move it to a button you never ever use and set the delay to max. Bam, good as disabled.
Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#275 - 2013-11-09 22:16:57 UTC
Right now I'm loving the "beep-beep-beep" when selecting Show Info through the radial menu =3 I find it quite nice and useful, although I'll have to try all its functions...
Colman Dietmar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#276 - 2013-11-20 08:17:53 UTC
Being able to use it on characters in various lists (fleet, chat, etc) would be nice. Invite to fleet/convo, give money, kick from fleet, revoke/set booster, etc.

Also, being able to warp fleet/wing/squad using it would also be very nice.

And using it on items in hangar: sell, fit to active ship, info, repackage, reprocess...
Vesan Terakol
Trollgrin Sadface
Dark Taboo
#277 - 2013-11-23 21:40:26 UTC
Can we get it to work on the bookmarks in the people in places list? would be really nice, since getting bookmarks in overview is such a technical issue.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#278 - 2013-11-23 21:42:46 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP karkur
Vesan Terakol wrote:
Can we get it to work on the bookmarks in the people in places list? would be really nice, since getting bookmarks in overview is such a technical issue.

It should actually already work on them... if it doesn't, I must have some fixing to do

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#279 - 2013-11-23 21:51:11 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Vesan Terakol wrote:
Can we get it to work on the bookmarks in the people in places list? would be really nice, since getting bookmarks in overview is such a technical issue.

It should actually already work on them... if it doesn't, I must have some fixing to do

Just checked the radial menu appeared with warp to enabled so it seems to work.

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Mercer Nen
Summicron Holdings
#280 - 2013-11-25 01:13:29 UTC
How bout radial menu in the assets window? Shame to have to right click on a station where I have assets to select it as a destination.