EVE General Discussion

This game has had continual growth from year to year for the past 10 years. Name another MMO that has done the same.

Your char's name is "helyean," which is, phonetically, "hellion." Rather appropriate, I think, regarding the "child" part.

Perhaps you should have named yourself "baybean" instead? You can always biomass and remake, you know.

In all seriousness, naming yourself a phonetic of something that indicates some troublemaker or a tough guy, then whining about trouble finding you, is quite delicious.

Confirming everything Serleanka said is true.

Also be it known that I raged, hard, with my first toon. Then I "got it", one day, and Garamonde reaped all the benefits.
So, you can recover. I mean, look at me, now.

You deserved it.. Now thank you for making me laugh at you.

The sub numbers for this game are definately skewed. Amoung the things that make this game different is the number of alts seemingly everyone has. And to generate these alts, since only three come with an account, and only one can train, people buy more subs. While it is somewhat an aberation, just the other day the was a thread about some guy mining with 97 alts. In short, referencing sub numbers is not really a valid way to show the games popularity.

All that aside, geting your pixels dispersed into other pixels shouldnt be taken so hard. And if you consider gaining thoses pixels in a certain configuration hard work you are missing the game part. Maybe just try not to take pixel dispersion personally, and try playing a game for there desired configuration instead of working hard for it.

God... What is with all the carebears whining today? So many people making threads about not returning to eve when they can't seem to figure out... No one cares. No one.

Go away already.

Perfect, couldn't have said it any better! You sir, win at EvE.

@OP

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First of, I hear what you're saying and I've been there. I spent years in and out of WoW from vanilla up to Mists and left because the PvP scene went from open world to arenas and I wanted more of a 'World' of Warcraft. From there I moved to Warhammer online and City of Heroes (*sniff*) but hit the same problems of grinding for something meaning less

I also started playing EvE for a while and left because I found it difficult and unforgiving. But please hear me out for a second.

I wanting meaningful PvP and I feel like I have it here. Yes it's not difficult and yes it's not fair but in my mind PvP isn't. There's always a bigger dog but that doesn't mean you can't bite.

first and foremost, you need good people to play with and learn from and as an experienced MMO player, I'm sure you appreciate this. It's even more important in EvE as people can scam you or make your life difficult and there is so much to learn. However, giving a little trust and meeting the right people makes all the difference.

For instance, I came back, leveled some skills and did some missions in high sec to get some ISK and joined RvB. It was one of the best decisions I've ever made. I learned a lot, got a lot of good fight and met some great people. You could also look into EvE Uni or Agony Unleashed to learn more. Hell, if you want, you can message me if you like. I'm doing Faction Warefare right know as I don't have a lot of time in game.

Now, I've never flown anything seriously higher than Gallente frigates and a few destroyers but I'm learning a lot about how to fly and fit them. I used to spend ages on talent calculators tweaking build but this has been far more satisfying. Figuring out what I can fit and trying different builds.

Now I have lost A LOT of ships (https://zkillboard.com/character/92893953/). In fact, I have only killed a handful compared to what I've lost but I've measured my risks. I've lost the odd expensive destroyer to camps but I've learned a little from each one and even chatted to the people who've killed me for some tips. Most have been helpful and some haven't.

In short, EvE is unfair, but it's a sandbox and that's the nature of the beast. You can either with that or against it. If that means being in a game with a variety of game play styles and meaningful PvP, I should be ready to accept that fact as well.

Be smart about what you can afford to loose and use what you have to learn. Don't be afraid to ask people for duels and learn the craft. even if it means fitting out a few cheap ships to learn from. It's all about the people in this game and how they interact.

Going back to WoW felt so limited and isolated compared to EvE for me now.

It's a harsh mountain to climb but the view from the top is worth it, and I have a long way to climb

This.

Edit: Seriously though, back in like 2008, the learning curve was insane, you got 1 mission - shoot the frigate rat, that was it. Today corps provide lessons, tutorial videos, skill training plans...ect. CCP tutorial help is a help as well. So, idk what else to say.

So true. There is no nasty boss at the end of EvE. Just everyone else playing.