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Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#1 - 2011-09-09 19:45:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Dichotomi
I have been experiencing some rather harassment from a young man who seems to think I "stole" his corporation. About a year ago, shortly after I started playing EVE, I joined a corporation (I mean that is what they tell you to do in the tutorial). I was moseying through my first months of "life" and there was some trouble stirring in the corporation. The CEO was using corp funds for personal expenses. The corporation wa small and there was only one director (a very experienced and older toon); he gave each one of the members 1 share of corp stock and called a vote of no confidence. The young CEO was removed from power and the director took over. The director then had some real life issues and had to leave the game for a bit. I woke up and logged on one morning to find my UI was different. I checked my mail and there was a mail explaining the situation aand telling me I was the new CEO.
I took about a year off EVE (I have cancer and needed to recover from chemo/radiation). I came back about a month ago started receiving a number of harassing emails. I blocked the characters and went about my business. Everything was fine until a few days ago when my son logged on and he was upset by one of the emails that said this young man was "hunting me down" in two other video games and I should "stop corp hopping so I can F***ING KILL YOU".
I filed a petition with CCP as (in my opinion) someone going to the extent of going to other video games to seek retribution over negative consequences to his actions is disturbing and harassment. CCP then told me that there were no "real life threats" and they could do nothing. I then cancelled my accounts, uninstalled the client, changed the passwords, and asked CCP to cancel my accounts immediately. CCP then told me that they would not cancel my accounts immediately and that the actions I have taken should be sufficient to keep my son offline.
I did this for the protection of my son who is a high functioning teenage autistic. My son (as many autistic children are) is a technological genius; if he wants to get on EVE he can easily "hack" his way in. Keeping my son "in his box" per se is important to maintaining status quo.
When CCP would not cancel my acounts immediately or even give the young man who is harassing me and my family (in and out of EVE) a warning of some sort; I sent them a number of harassing messages through the petition in hopes of getting them to cancel the accounts immediately (I am simply trying to protect my son; I do not want to harass them, but sometimes "the squeaky wheel gets the oil"). I find it disheartening that CCP cares so little about this situation. I get that EVE is "hard and cold", and one of the reasons I play is the real risk you take in playing; I enjoy it. I however will not risk the well being of my son because a young man is holding a grudge and CCP will do nothing about it.
It is my hope through this post that either CCP will cancel my accounts or they will give this young man some kind of warning to the inappropriateness of his actions (in and out of EVE). If he wants to shoot me or my son in game; go for it. That is part of the game. Harassing me and my family is uncalled for though.
CCP, PLEASE DO SOMETHING! I do offer my sincere apology to GM Arcade for my inappropriate words yesterday; I am simply trying to protect my family. I would hope if you were in my shoes ou would do something similar.
Lorren Canada
High is the Way - But all eyes are Upon the Ground
#2 - 2011-09-09 19:49:14 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
I have been experiencing some rather harassment from a young man who seems to think I "stole" his corporation. About a year ago, shortly after I started playing EVE, I joined a corporation (I mean that is what they tell you to do in the tutorial). I was moseying through my first months of "life" and there was some trouble stirring in the corporation. The CEO was using corp funds for personal expenses. The corporation wa small and there was only one director (a very experienced and older toon); he gave each one of the members 1 share of corp stock and called a vote of no confidence. The young CEO was removed from power and the director took over. The director then had some real life issues and had to leave the game for a bit. I woke up and logged on one morning to find my UI was different. I checked my mail and there was a mail explaining the situation aand telling me I was the new CEO.
I took about a year off EVE (I have cancer and needed to recover from chemo/radiation). I came back about a month ago started receiving a number of harassing emails. I blocked the characters and went about my business. Everything was fine until a few days ago when my son logged on and he was upset by one of the emails that said this young man was "hunting me down" in two other video games and I should "stop corp hopping so I can F***ING KILL YOU".
I filed a petition with CCP as (in my opinion) someone going to the extent of going to other video games to seek retribution over negative consequences to his actions is disturbing and harassment. CCP then told me that there were no "real life threats" and they could do nothing. I then cancelled my accounts, uninstalled the client, changed the passwords, and asked CCP to cancel my accounts immediately. CCP then told me that they would not cancel my accounts immediately and that the actions I have taken should be sufficient to keep my son offline.
I did this for the protection of my son who is a high functioning teenage autistic. My son (as many autistic children are) is a technological genius; if he wants to get on EVE he can easily "hack" his way in. Keeping my son "in his box" per se is important to maintaining status quo.
When CCP would not cancel my acounts immediately or even give the young man who is harassing me and my family (in and out of EVE) a warning of some sort; I sent them a number of harassing messages through the petition in hopes of getting them to cancel the accounts immediately (I am simply trying to protect my son; I do not want to harass them, but sometimes "the squeaky wheel gets the oil"). I find it disheartening that CCP cares so little about this situation. I get that EVE is "hard and cold", and one of the reasons I play is the real risk you take in playing; I enjoy it. I however will not risk the well being of my son because a young man is holding a grudge and CCP will do nothing about it.
It is my hope through this post that either CCP will cancel my accounts or they will give this young man some kind of warning to the inappropriateness of his actions (in and out of EVE). If he wants to shoot me or my son in game; go for it. That is part of the game. Harassing me and my family is uncalled for though.
CCP, PLEASE DO SOMETHING! I do offer my sincere apology to GM Arcade for my inappropriate words yesterday; I am simply trying to protect my family. I would hope if you were in my shoes ou would do something similar.


"Train troll resistance to level V" -Montolio
Zynar11
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-09-09 19:51:35 UTC
I don't know the full details on how to do this but I believe you can have an ip address blocked by your router or service provider.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2011-09-09 19:56:01 UTC
Lorren Canada wrote:
Dichotomi wrote:
-snip-


"Train troll resistance to level V" -Montolio


okay see now that one would have deserved a dislike...

@ OP I say what you do is poke at the guy threatening you and goad him into making worse and worse threats with which CCP can get behind getting rid of him over.

And of course make sure to take note where the logs are (default saved to Documents/EVE/logs/chatlogs) and keep the mails and maybe even take screenshots of him making said threats in a channel and etc

Give CCP more ammo to work with

The Drake is a Lie
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-09-09 19:56:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Feligast
So let me see here. In order to get rid of your accounts, which you've done perfectly well already, you became the type of person you are trying to "protect your son" from? Do I have that about right?

What I'm gathering out of this is "CCP, I can't even control my austistic son, change your policies just for me in case he 'hax' his way into the accounts I've shut down! Do my parenting NOW, CCP!" Close?

Oh, and one more thing.. if you cancelled, unsubbed, and shut down all your accounts.. how exactly are you posting? AIDS/10 on the troll attempt.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#6 - 2011-09-09 20:03:06 UTC
Feligast wrote:
So let me see here. In order to get rid of your accounts, which you've done perfectly well already, you became the type of person you are trying to "protect your son" from? Do I have that about right?

What I'm gathering out of this is "CCP, I can't even control my austistic son, change your policies just for me in case he 'hax' his way into the accounts I've shut down! Do my parenting NOW, CCP!" Close?

Oh, and one more thing.. if you cancelled, unsubbed, and shut down all your accounts.. how exactly are you posting? AIDS/10 on the troll attempt.


Well it's not so much hack the account, it's more that the subscription is canceled but the account probably still has remaining time on it and his son can just re-install EVE and open it again. What CCP won't do is chop the remaining time off the account and make it inaccessible via lack of subscription immediately.

This guy also can't watch his son 24/7 to ensure that hes not gotten back to EVE and at the same time is probably not as technologically savvy enough to put in road blocks for his son while he's not there.

The Drake is a Lie
Phelan Votronski
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-09-09 20:03:44 UTC
I'll put the fact that you're a troll away for a minute.

I'm even going to pretend that it makes sense that your "son" didn't log into eve for a whole year but just now he's turning into an uncontrollable eve-addict with mad hacking skills.

Here is the solution: get yourself permabanned. You can do that in several ways some of which likely are pretty fun. Then your son would have to hack CCP before he gets to play again.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-09-09 20:04:25 UTC
Pubbie problems

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#9 - 2011-09-09 20:06:05 UTC
Captain, we're entering a large nebula of bullshit

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#10 - 2011-09-09 20:06:26 UTC
Fel, that is not what I am saying. Also, until you have dealt with an autistic child you have no idea what it is like. IF he wants to so do something he is going to do it.
As far as blocking the site from the router... that is a good idea and I may do that. I am concerned that he will just grab another wireless signal from his laptop and access one of the accounts.
Thank you all for the ideas. The help is much appreciated.
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#11 - 2011-09-09 20:10:44 UTC
And for the record, I did not introduce my son to EVE until I came back this year. He did not have any interest in it last year.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-09-09 20:12:37 UTC
1. Delete your characters.
Then even if your son does manage to get online between now and when the accounts expire he/she will be a new character.
Actually you could have just deleted the to begin with and gotten the same protection, or even sold them.

2. You can change the passwords on all your accounts.

3 As other have said you can block the IP's via a router if you have one.

4 Use can use the parental controls that come with windows to restrict you childs computer usage.

Or you can do all of the above.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#13 - 2011-09-09 20:13:32 UTC
Also, I am plexed for 2 more months. I need CCP to cut that time off. One account ran out of PLEX yesterday, and another is PLEXed till the end of the month.
Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-09-09 20:18:08 UTC
biomass, or sell the chars.
Messy Beaver
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-09-09 20:27:30 UTC
Knitting needle and a bottle of gin
Deryk Kyeld
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-09-09 20:28:40 UTC
Why don't you just change the passwords to all your relevant accounts that are linked to your EVE account...
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#17 - 2011-09-09 20:34:24 UTC
Deryk, I have. IF my son wants to get on EVE he has written software to hack my passwords in the past... I would not be surprised if he did it again.
Harold Tuphlos
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#18 - 2011-09-09 20:38:55 UTC
I hear you can haxorz your way past a ban. Hint hint...
Kesshisan
#19 - 2011-09-09 20:59:41 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
Fel, that is not what I am saying. Also, until you have dealt with an autistic child you have no idea what it is like. IF he wants to so do something he is going to do it.
As far as blocking the site from the router... that is a good idea and I may do that. I am concerned that he will just grab another wireless signal from his laptop and access one of the accounts.
Thank you all for the ideas. The help is much appreciated.


I don't know the level of knowledge that your son has about computers, but on windows machines there is a "hosts" file located at:

C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

Hosts in the filename, not another directory. This filename has no extension.

If you edit the file you will see things like this:

Quote:
127.0.0.1 localhost


That means you are redirecting all inputs of "localhost" to the IP address "127.0.0.1"

I don't know what the eve online login server's name or address is, but if it was login.eveonline.com, this is a line you can add to the computer to block eve:

Quote:
127.0.0.1 login.eveonline.com


If you do this, everytime your computer tries to go to login.eveonline.com it will instead be redirected to 127.0.0.1 (also known as loopback.) That is, you won't be able to access eve online so long as this line appears in the hosts file. Of course you will need to change the host name accordingly otherwise it won't work.

Of course if your son knows about this, he may be able to find it and change it. But so long as this line exists, that one computer will not be able to gain access to eve online.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-09-09 21:04:41 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
Deryk, I have. IF my son wants to get on EVE he has written software to hack my passwords in the past... I would not be surprised if he did it again.

Use a different computer, such as one at work, to change the password (to get around keyloggers). Change it to a long, say, 30 character random string of letters, numbers and symbols. Bash your head on the keyboard if you want. Set your password to that. As long as you never use it on your home computer, there is no way for him to get to it.

This of course assumes he doesn't have access to the e-mail used to create the account and cannot just request a password reset.

Biomassing your characters works too, and takes 10 hours.
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