EVE New Citizens Q&A

The main problem with declining storyline missions is that you have to regrind 16 normal missions to get the next one. The 4h decline cooldown is almost never a problem.

OP, be aware that you might be able to find someone who will do the mission for you, maybe just for the bounty loot+salvage, maybe you have to pay them. Be very careful if the mission requires you to loot a specific item - someone could do the mission for you and then hold that item ransom. But if the mission is just "kill everything", you can simply hire someone else if you run into a scammer.

Lot's of good replies in this thread, too many to quote them all.

I decided to quote this one mainly due to the statement about working for lv 1 to lv 3 agents instead of a lv 4 agent. When you factor in time spent verses reward gained, level 3 is the best ratio. Going with that and by letting the storyline missions pile up and then have a combat oriented friend help complete them as stated above, you'll soon have the required amount of Faction standing needed to anchor a POS which will be done through your Corporation. Lot's of skills, time and ISK required to complete that.

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I'd like to point out a cheaper and faster alternative that requires more attention but also includes more risk. The original idea of doing Manufacturing with researched BPO's and BPC's is still a good idea and not much Faction or Corporation standing is actually required. You also don't have to form a Corporation or put up a POS.

Yes, high security Research and Copy slots are usually filled up with weeks / months queue while manufacturing slots are usually open and available. However, in low security there's usually a lot of open Research and Copy slots available.

The trick is to do the 5 P's. Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance.

Train up Covert Ops Frigate and use that to transport your BPO's to a low sec station with open Research and Copy facilities available. Do the research on the BPO's then make a bunch of BPC's. After you're done, load up your prints and go back to high security and start producing your products.

With the Star Map, check system info for stations with the Science / Manufacturing services available first. IE, amount of active ships, amount of ship / pod kills, etc. You want to find systems with low amount of activity. Don't forget to check station services for open Research / Copy slots as well. After finding a station with open slots in a rarely used low sec system, the next thing to do is create safe and insta-undock spots.

That's where the Covert Ops Frigate comes into play. It can warp while cloaked, is very agile and has a small signature making it hard to lock. When traveling in low sec, just click on the next gate destination in the overview and select the 'Jump' option in the selected items box and then activate the Covert Ops Cloaking Module immediately afterwards. The ship will basically be a flash on the overviews of unfriendly ships.

The actual risk is un-docking from the low sec stations with your researched BPC's and BPO's. That's where the insta-undock spots come into play. A safe way to make them is to warp to 100km range from the station while cloaked, then select the 'Look' option in the selected items box to view the station and determine where the exit point is located. Activate the Tactical Map and maneuver your ship to be inline with the exit point of the station while maintaining range. Once in line with the exit point, head your ship straight out from it for at least 600 to 1000 km range and then bookmark the spot. You now have an Insta-Undock spot made.

As a precaution you can also make a couple of safe spots within the system as well. Anyway, just another option to allow you to start doing your initial plan of action while training up skills and building up standings for that high sec POS.


DMC

EDIT : I forgot to add when you undock, right after the session change from black to the in space view, r-click in space and select the Insta-Undock spot and warp to 0. The ship will immediately go into warp. Just don't forget to activate your cloak.

honestly, it sucks from your perspective about "I just wanna haul crap" ... now, what about the other side of the coin -- all those people who only have battleships and are grinding security missions only to get a "great, now haul this 20k m3 worth of crap 17 jumps round trip" mission?

That 10-mission storyline is one of the best for getting standings (IIRC). It's unfortunate that you are unable to complete it due to the simple fact you're playing a MMO solo...

EDIT -- Really the "careers" that are talked about are when you start getting to the actual multiplayer content (i.e. you *can* be "just a hauler" for a large enough corporation/alliance), and not so much missioning by yourself.

That might have been a problem before Odyssey where you needed to train Gallente Industrial 5 for a decent hauler.
But now that you only need Industrial 1, I agree with Oraac.

All storyline agents have a limited pool of missions to choose from. Sometimes you will get the same mission many times in a row.

For the moment (until the "content" team get around to introducing more storyline missions specific to each division) your best option is to find someone to help you with the combat missions. You might try joining the channel "HelpMyMission" in game and asking for help there.

Hope this helps!

Who are you trying to build standings with that you only have one storyline agent to choose from?

Which opens up a swathe of new questions, of course

If you're aiming for faction standings with Amarr, I would shop around for the storyline agent with the pool of missions that you're happy to run. If you've picked four storyline missions from this agent and they're always the same one, that might be because the corporation the agent works for is so small that the agent only has one storyline mission to offer (and bizarrely enough the Distribution agent only has a Security mission). The list of missions might change as your standings improve though: if you persist with that storyline agent will you let us know?

I am running missions for Duvolle labs, so I've found a conveniently placed L3 distribution agent who has a Duvolle Labs storyline agent next door. That agent loves giving me "Materials for War Preparation" (the L3 version since I'm doing L3 missions, and the L3 version of MfWP is excellent for standings gains, as opposed to the L4 version which is woeful), so I just stock that storyline agent's station with Omber ahead of time (and happen to sell lots of it to other people doing the same mission grind as myself). I shopped around a bit, and this agent does offer Security missions too, but the MfWP is their favourite one to hand out.

If you just want to get a POS set up, it might be worth shopping around for an alliance that already has a POS and will grant you access to do ME & PE research. There are many corporations who have POSes set up for invention, who end up having ME & PE slots to spare. They can open their ME & PE labs to alliance members and all you need to do is train Scientific Networking in addition to the appropriate research skills, plonk your BPO in an NPC station hangar in the same system, and set up the ME/PE/copy job (of course to retrieve the output of a copy job you need access to the actual POS … but this is POSes we're talking about, nothing makes sense).

If there are specific reasons you wish to build your reputation with the Imperial Chancellor, then just keep doing what you're doing!

Excellent!

Make sure you pay some attention to the Intergalactic Summit forum, where RP happens sometimes: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=260 (many of the posts seem to be soliloquies or monologues, but at least you can figure out who is RPing and arrange to contact them in-character in game).



There is also Zoar and Sons, when it comes to Amarr research (though from memory they are Khanid, so not strictly Amarr).



Yup, and you're doing it.

At some point we mission runners will completely catalogue everything, but for the meantime just keep track of what missions you're running for that storyline agent. You'll find the list is at most six or seven distinct missions.

edit: the list for storyline agents is very small. The list for Security agents is going to be about 20, the list for distribution agents is about 10 (e.g.: my L3 Distribution agent gives me: Ridiculous Oil Prices, Cigarettes, Take This Away, Tourists and a couple of others), the list for mining agents is about 4.

Keno may be genuine, but this assumption is incorrect. You can not run direct scams or troll in the new player forum. So for example posting "Send me X Isk and I'll double it", cannot be put into this forum.

But an offer to contact someone in game which then leads to a scam cannot be policed.

I think one of the main issues with storylines is that they are based on the EVE lore. Which means you will likely have to fight another entity. Also making distribution storylines isnt that easy, how are faction standing gains and drops calculated into it. As if you only gain faction standing (cause you dont fight another faction) it would be too OP as people will just farm faction standings with all 4 factions in no time.