Science & Industry

I was shocked coming back to Eve after a short break to find exhumers are now worthless due to changes in high sec Security and suicide ganking.

I guess all the whiners that could not hack 0 space pvp, and are to cowardly to hit a hard target, got their way by talking CCP into allowing mass suicide ganking soft targets in high sec, without meaningful consequence.

I've read tons of old forums and heard all the crying about how how care bear miners were destroying the game. What a joke. And what a total joke CCP listened to them. High sec mining added a huge dimension to the game. It allowed a class of players to fund 0 space activities, and help move the 0 space game.

Just because pvp players did not want to invest their time into this kind of game, it does not give them a right to take that away from other players. Which is exactly what has happened. All the cry babies that could not hack 0 space and talked CCP into having the ability to explode mining ships without consequence. Both the kill rights and bounty system suck, and should not even be warranted as a viable game mechanic, and satisfactory balance.

The hypocrisy of these so called pvp'ers is that they want the ability to kill off all the miners in the game and then ***** that 0 space sucks now? You deserve the suck! Your created it. Enjoy the emptiness.

Calling eve a "sandbox" game is lie. CCP has always seeded the marked with non- player generated minerals, which I always objected to. Which debases minders players quality of time. Now CCP just decided to destroy high sec mining all together.

At the very least, CCP should offer mining characters a full skill reset!

Bye!

Can I haz ur stuffs?


On a serious note - do not biomass or destroy your assets - sleep on it mate.

hisec mining is fine actually. Fit skiffs, which are still exhumers, and never get ganked. Or pick your lazy ass up and move more than 6 jumps away from a trade hub and you can find plenty of space where gankers won't bother you. And if you pay attention, you can find fairly high value ores as well.

You complained about minerals from non-mining sources. You'll be pleased to hear that CCP has heavily nerfed gun-mining in the last few years. Both by reducing the drops of meta0 modules from level 4 missions, and by replacing drone poop with bounties.

I've personally found that the main problems are:
* Pilots that are AFK.
* Pilots that don't accept responsibility for their choices and actions. [This includes accepting losses.]
* Pilots that want the sandbox to adapt to them, rather than adapt themselves.
So if you are bored or unhappy in EVE, it is your own fault.

I still mine when in the mood. Still using my first Hulk I bought over 4 years ago. I don't mine in high traffic systems (= more people in local than belts), and if I do, I fully expect a gank attempt and accept any loss for making that choice.

Oh and:

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Judging from some of the comments I've seen, many players do not understand the manufacture side of the game.

do not understand the manufacture side of the game.....

do not understand the manufacture side of the game..............................

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Cap ship manufacturing 5, exhumer 5, gas mining 5(cuz **** it) productivity efficiency 5...... The list goes on

quit being bad. Wont miss ya if you dont come back. till then im going to be making more bank with another "indi guy" gone.

I know industry. I love industry. Your OP, Garbage. No one will miss you.

I own 6 Charon freighters because every week i buy the materials I use for manufacturing, because it would be impossible for me to mine that much myself.

Seriously, don't call me out for not being a manufacturer. You are so far from wrong it is comical.

The Op's real post:

He got a free 30 day trial after being away from the game since March, 2012 (mining barge rebalance). He tried to earn enough isk to pay for a GTC and was ganked because he didn't buy a mining permit.

The truth is, before the changes it would have been easier to gank him, but that's neither here nor there because the only tank he fit was a small shield booster II.

The truth is, gun mining is diminished. Drone Poo is gone. Mining vessels were generally buffed, and highsec does not mean risk free.

Tau is a true manufacturer, you are not.

He realized a long time ago, mining is for plebs... like you.

You are aware that the yield difference between an Procurer and a Covetor is a mere 15%? Less if you take into account, that a Procurer can easily use Mining Drones as its not bothered by NPCs.

You should read the Barge changes again. Really you should...