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An opinion for mission running lvl 4s with Drakes

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Supreme Soviet
F-Trade
Dreads Amongst Drifters
#1 - 2013-11-05 19:39:04 UTC
Hey everyone!

How are you all doing? :D

Anyways, on to the topic at hand!

I have 5 accounts in EVE, and i recently thought i would use them to mission run lvl 4s, do DED stuff, etc.

How viable is 5 drakes at doing lvl 4s and such?

And after the drakes, what should i aim for (OTHER than the raven, hate the raven)

Opinions are all welcome :D

Thanks in advance!

Vilton
Infinity Engine
#2 - 2013-11-05 19:57:02 UTC
Supreme Soviet wrote:
Hey everyone!

How are you all doing? :D

Anyways, on to the topic at hand!

I have 5 accounts in EVE, and i recently thought i would use them to mission run lvl 4s, do DED stuff, etc.

How viable is 5 drakes at doing lvl 4s and such?

And after the drakes, what should i aim for (OTHER than the raven, hate the raven)

Opinions are all welcome :D

Thanks in advance!



I'd suggest to stick with 1-2 chars for the combat plus a salvager (depending on amount of monitors) and train towards the Tengu.
Supreme Soviet
F-Trade
Dreads Amongst Drifters
#3 - 2013-11-05 20:33:13 UTC
Tengu sounds neat!

But, kinda want to stick with my 5 lol :D Worked hard and invested a lot into them already ;)

But thanks for the Tengu idea! :D
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-11-05 21:12:48 UTC
Train one into a rapid fire long range user (Machariel). Put the rest in domis and assist said machariel. Clean house in record time.
Pragda
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-11-05 21:33:30 UTC
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
Train one into a rapid fire long range user (Machariel). Put the rest in domis and assist said machariel. Clean house in record time.


Perfect idea

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Marcus Walkuris
Aww yeahhh
#6 - 2013-11-05 23:16:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Walkuris
Doing lvl4 missions with 5 characters no matter what they fly is insane unless that is what you somehow get a kick out of.
You could use 5 miners to mine in 0.9 systems and make better income...
It is already inefficient to have 2 combat vessels in the same mission.
If you really insist on 5 characters though I would say 2x 2 dominix with some remote rep and 1 salvager character.
Nothing can stand that amount of AFK dps, you wont even need to fit them with MJD.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#7 - 2013-11-06 00:22:17 UTC
Drake has had 2 relatively recent nerfs.

L4 drake is dead.

Navy Scorpion. Followed by Rattlesnake once you have lots of SP.
Dato Koppla
Neuronix
#8 - 2013-11-06 01:27:48 UTC
Dual boxing L4s is still efficient as you can complete missions much faster and more dps means less tank needed so you can get more out of each ship. However trying to Quintuple-box L4s isn't a smart idea. You should set the other toons to do other things like P.I., mining, hauling or something like that.

That being said, if you don't want to use Ravens you can go for a Tengu but frankly the Raven family is better. Or you can do it right and go Mach + Domi.
Cyrus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-11-06 04:00:09 UTC
If you hate the raven, you have to find the drake as absolutely repulsive. As for what works best for 5 accounts though, that would be the dominix. You can have all the drones assist one ship. A good turret boat works best as lead.
Supreme Soviet
F-Trade
Dreads Amongst Drifters
#10 - 2013-11-06 06:51:09 UTC
I think i should have mentioned i am not looking to make tons of isk per hour lol :P

My fault for not stating that.

This is something i want to do for fun :D

But many great ideas here!

Also, the reason i hate the Raven is not because of its function, but because how how it looks :P Never was partial to it. I find the Drake wonderful, and considering it is the perfect ship to test my 5 ship control for future efforts.

I also plan on doing sites and incursions, and the drakes would be great practice for the bigger ships needed.

Trying to stay away from drone boats and sticking to either missiles or lasers.

That being said, my end goal would probably be either a rattlesnake/CNS, or maybe 5 abaddons XD

Loving some ideas thus far though :)
Marcus Walkuris
Aww yeahhh
#11 - 2013-11-06 10:32:27 UTC
I will whole-heartedly advise you to rattlesnake out of those.
Lots of tank spare highs or FoF missiles, you want to train for using the setup, then you might as well make it a low stress one.
Of-course you should get that program to run multiple accounts too, don't know its name though.
Just google multi-box EvE program.
Supreme Soviet
F-Trade
Dreads Amongst Drifters
#12 - 2013-11-06 14:47:13 UTC
I already do use that program :)


It is called ISboxer, just FYI :D

Rattlesnakes seem like the logical step up, as you say.

Won't stop me from checking out stuff like 5 Tornados XD

They might not tank at all, but i am pretty sure we can work with that potential dps :P

Thanks for your input!
Nolen Cadmar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-11-06 17:34:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Nolen Cadmar
Ireland VonVicious wrote:

Navy Scorpion. Followed by Rattlesnake once you have lots of SP.


This. Rattle b/c of it's passive regen ability. No need to turn on/off active reppers. Works pretty well with sentry drones too.

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Supreme Soviet
F-Trade
Dreads Amongst Drifters
#14 - 2013-11-06 19:51:15 UTC
Rattlesnake it is!

Just FYI!

Tested the Five Drake fleet. Works awesomely! 30 heavy missiles pounding targets to oblivion XD

Thank you all for your replies!

Fly Safe!
Marcus Walkuris
Aww yeahhh
#15 - 2013-11-06 21:26:58 UTC
The rattlesnake is essentially the drake of the BS class, despite it being drone based.
It has the tanking bonus and the largest shield recharge and capacity.
Allowing for the passive and active setup.
But with multiple ships you may be able to use some kind of freak remote rep+shield extender setup.
Focussing on active tanking but buffered as well sacrificing some dps, this was always the attraction to drakes the flexibility.
Sadly drakes only flexibility now is bending over backwards to do no dps.
Supreme Soviet
F-Trade
Dreads Amongst Drifters
#16 - 2013-11-06 22:47:39 UTC
I dunno lol, the drakes seem to be doing fine lol :P

30 heavy missiles at one target is pretty fantastic :P
Marcus Walkuris
Aww yeahhh
#17 - 2013-11-06 22:58:30 UTC
Well yes, five drakes after all..
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2013-11-06 23:00:33 UTC
I messed around with an armor buffered hyena and 2 rr RS. Probably work with domis just as easily. Run a cap chain on the RS, use one large armor RR from each RS to the hyena, leave them permanently on. Fit ab, 2 tp and 2 fed webs on hyena, assign all sentries to the hyena. The hyena targets pretty quickly and the sentries will blow through stuff extremely quickly. use 1 tp per target so when one npc dies, you can put free tp on the next. Anything that gets too close and the sentries can't hit, double web tp and it dies. Hyena just orbits RS with ab on.
But if you happy with the drakes.. then why change :) except maybe to some Tengu's or NH's for some extra dps
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#19 - 2013-11-07 00:03:31 UTC
Salvaging the missions after your drakes have swept through is going to be very time consuming: one character in a noctis will keep you busy pressing buttons for several minutes when cleaning up after a Blockade, for example.

I highly recommend contracting someone to do your salvaging for you: you get to do the fun stuff and get half of the value of your salvage and loot for very little extra work (just bookmark wrecks and contract them to the salvager). Check for salvagers in local at your mission hub: I highly recommend Pro Synergy.
Supreme Soviet
F-Trade
Dreads Amongst Drifters
#20 - 2013-11-07 10:05:13 UTC
Nice tips!

Also, i usually just give my salvage to anyone who wants them in Local lol.

In regards to the ugly ship known as Raven, Would it be a decent stepping stone? Since my alts only need 1 day to use it decently left on the training.

Recommendations regarding this?
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