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Oh you have no idea mate.

Hate to agree with a goon, but yeah, all your points are valid.
Of course, you are the same group campaigning loudly for the ruination of T3's.

A simple fix would be that a T3 can only refit modules, not subsystems, at these deployable module.
Or heavens above, CCP could hire some competent coders who could fix POS's so T3's could ONLY be refitted at stations or POS's, completely bypassing this deployable module.

WHEEEEE!!!

Yurts have 48 hour reinforcement timers, they can be picked up while reinforced. Do the math from there.

Yeah right, just a little crumb of bread for the crowd before you nerf T3s to hell and back. Don´t get me wrong, this change is welcome. But if you really nerf the T3s in the upcoming year as you plan to do then ask yourself one question first: Are T3s the problem or are 1000s of people on field flying them the problem? You fail to recognize basic problems in gameplay mechanics and are just dealing with the symptoms.

I`m gonna leave this here just in case.....


THE TRUTH!

Which leaves 6 months of t3 black ops roams. Nerfing t3's is not an answer to the possible future t3 projection/fitting wars. The sp loss isn't a counter, it's an annoyance. You can fit all the t3 fits at level 4. Yes the guy who loses 3 t3's in a day will be mad, you've shot 3 to 6 days of training for him....

If the fear of losing skillpoints was a deterrent, there would be fewer people flying t3's.

Right now, every nullsec alliance has put together several t3 configurations, blaster prots, ham legions, railgu's, etc. they were used in some limited amounts until this announcement, now t3's are beginning to swarm everywhere.


Even if its nerfed, t3 black ops and refitting is still a problem. I don't like where nullsec combats going. Wormhole combats fine, they have no cyno's, supers, blackops, etc. it's balanced towards that...

The mobile array causes allot of issues for t3's. It needs to be reviewed. In someways carrier refits are too, but to less a degree.

2 Things to bring up for the DEVS to look into

1)Potential fix for the problem referenced most -

Everyone fears a T3 Bops hot drop utilizing mobile depots to reconfigure into combat mode

********** They should fear this, this is what should happen. End the system blockades, allow the fight to happen where it matters, make the fight MEAN something. This type of action would be a like a door-kicker, the fleet Bops in, goes combat mode and tries to break the system jam so that the rest of the fleet can follow.

If you want to combat this, increase EHP on jammers/cyno gens so that the door-kicker fleet needs power behind it (this is the only balance that may need to be addressed)

Everyone fears that the T3 Bops hot drop will be able to evade destruction by reconfiguring to escape

********** This seems to be the major issue, everyone is afraid that a T3 fleet will have an option to escape back the way it came if their combat plan blows up in their face. This is a problem, why should a T3 fleet be able to enter system with the intent to go for max combat mode, then reconfigure to face a threat they didn't plan for (ex: swapping hardeners to face a different fleet comp than anticipated, or swapping for nullifiers/cloaks to escape in the middle of combat)

If you want to combat this, then put a longer anchor time on the depots or put in a combat delay so that people that have seen recent combat action are unable to access the the depot (however this option will then restrict the people that use the depots for PVE (mining/ratting) unless you use the flag system that keeps track of PVP action)

Longer anchor time means that you will need prep to drop them and the enemy will know where they are located, but this will not stop the T3 fleet from orbiting the depots and changing their fittings once the have been setup (which will be the case in the Bops hot drop case)

2) This is an issue that no one has brought up (I didn't test it, so maybe it wont be an issue)
When changing subsystems, the modules are place in the T3 cargo hold, which can potentially over-fill the cargo hold, allowing a pilot to fly a T3 with an over-full cargohold (i think that there is something to stop this from happening if you undock from station) but in space, there is no constraint, so a pilot could potentially have an unlimited overfill for the cargo by equipping extra mods, replacing sub systems so that the mods are unequipped, and doing this over and over to transport mods w/ a T3 cloak/nullified ship - anywhere, with as many mods as they want. this will take time to do, and you can only use mods that you can put on your T3, but you could potentially fill a cloak/nullified T3 full of mods that could = mins to build a titan

who wouldn't take the time to do this rather than risk running a JF from HS to 0.0 several times ferrying mins to build with? or mods to sell on the market? or a T3 ammo hauler for a fleet?

Again, i didn't test this on sisi, just the potential in theory

****************The fix - make it so that a T3 cannot change subsystem if cargo is overfull**********************

If you make the mods go into the same space the subsystem is then a pilot can overfill the fleet hangar by using yet another location to pull the extra mods from (since the subsystems will only be swapping they will may not cause the subsystem switch from failing due to an overfull fleet hangar)

Tested T3 fitting from CCP Paradox's Orca.
Worked perfectly.