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Epic Arc Rewards Question for Devs

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Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#1 - 2013-11-05 08:36:26 UTC
Is there any particular reason that the Amarr Epic Arc missions pay out 1/20th in many cases what the Caldari Epic Arc missions pay out for rewards?

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Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-11-05 09:29:52 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Is there any particular reason that the Amarr Epic Arc missions pay out 1/20th in many cases what the Caldari Epic Arc missions pay out for rewards?


Probably the same reason the Caldari Cosmos Missions pay out ~10 Billion on the gallente Cosmos missions pay out ~2 Billion (and the caldari cosmos takes about 1/8th the time to run)

CCP has never made any attempt to balance the "story like" missions between the factions. That is not necessarily a bad thing either. It would be annoying if the missions were exactly the same . . .

-FM

Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-11-05 10:00:29 UTC
Fango Mango wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Is there any particular reason that the Amarr Epic Arc missions pay out 1/20th in many cases what the Caldari Epic Arc missions pay out for rewards?


Probably the same reason the Caldari Cosmos Missions pay out ~10 Billion on the gallente Cosmos missions pay out ~2 Billion (and the caldari cosmos takes about 1/8th the time to run)

CCP has never made any attempt to balance the "story like" missions between the factions. That is not necessarily a bad thing either. It would be annoying if the missions were exactly the same . . .

-FM




so what ur saying is run the caldari epic arch missions :P
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#4 - 2013-11-05 10:11:11 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
Fango Mango wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Is there any particular reason that the Amarr Epic Arc missions pay out 1/20th in many cases what the Caldari Epic Arc missions pay out for rewards?


Probably the same reason the Caldari Cosmos Missions pay out ~10 Billion on the gallente Cosmos missions pay out ~2 Billion (and the caldari cosmos takes about 1/8th the time to run)

CCP has never made any attempt to balance the "story like" missions between the factions. That is not necessarily a bad thing either. It would be annoying if the missions were exactly the same . . .

-FM




so what ur saying is run the caldari epic arch missions :P

No the Caldari Cosmos Arc can be 10 bil. The epic arc is similar to amarr (Give or take 100mil)

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Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-11-05 10:25:55 UTC
cosmos ok thanx for clearing that up :)
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#6 - 2013-11-05 19:07:48 UTC
Fango Mango wrote:
CCP has never made any attempt to balance the "story like" missions between the factions. That is not necessarily a bad thing either. It would be annoying if the missions were exactly the same . . .

No one is asking for the missions to be exactly the same. But the level of compensation is totally out of whack.

Like, I am running it, and wondering why I am even bothering after running the Caldari Epic Arc two weeks ago.

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#7 - 2013-11-05 19:13:12 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Fango Mango wrote:
CCP has never made any attempt to balance the "story like" missions between the factions. That is not necessarily a bad thing either. It would be annoying if the missions were exactly the same . . .

No one is asking for the missions to be exactly the same. But the level of compensation is totally out of whack.

Like, I am running it, and wondering why I am even bothering after running the Caldari Epic Arc two weeks ago.


Epic arcs are for standings mainly IMO. The cash/item rewards are a bonus. Amarr has a bad bonus because Amarr is bad.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-11-05 23:50:53 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Fango Mango wrote:
CCP has never made any attempt to balance the "story like" missions between the factions. That is not necessarily a bad thing either. It would be annoying if the missions were exactly the same . . .

No one is asking for the missions to be exactly the same. But the level of compensation is totally out of whack.

Like, I am running it, and wondering why I am even bothering after running the Caldari Epic Arc two weeks ago.


Epic arcs are for standings mainly IMO. The cash/item rewards are a bonus. Amarr has a bad bonus because Amarr is bad.

I agree, the Epic Arcs main reward is all about gaining Faction standings, same with the Cosmos Agents. The ISK / Module / BPC rewards are secondary.



DMC
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#9 - 2013-11-06 00:49:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Toshiro Ozuwara
So basically, no decent answer except randoms posting their opinions.

The title says "for devs" and we get nobodies from around Eve trying to talk about something they cannot possibly know the answer to.

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Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#10 - 2013-11-06 01:23:35 UTC
You started a thread on a public forum and then expect Devs to fall over themselves to answer your question immediately and you put down people trying to give decent suggestions to your question.

If you didn't want to hear anybodys opinion then don't post here, find a way to get into direct contact with Devs or GTFO.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#11 - 2013-11-06 19:28:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
So basically, no decent answer except randoms posting their opinions.

The title says "for devs" and we get nobodies from around Eve trying to talk about something they cannot possibly know the answer to.



Devs picked reward items that are all significantly different and somewhat in the flavor of the respective race. Its up to the players to decide what those are worth through the forces of supply and demand. Turns out lots of people like running the amarr epic arc a lot more than they like plugging in the implant rewards, despite the fact that anyone can take 2 minutes to see the rewards and their market value. That said the amarr rewards don't look too terrible compared to say the Gallente ones. If you think the Amarr rewards suck, that's more of a statement than a question for the devs. And if you think you're wasting your time, well that's your problem, its not like the rewards were a secret.

Also: die in a fire.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.