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Please make this the next issue. This is a huge issue.

I feel someoen that has a wormhole living alt ...

Best wormhole expansion????

1) sma drops, not an expansion, but a bug fix due to sma lag bombs
2) refitting t3's. Took years to do, and still can't assemble the t3 in the assembly array that built it. That's a fix.
3) new implants put into wormholes. Just added 1 new thing to probe down, which all of eve got

Not an expansion. This is 2 bug fixes and a typo made by a developer when someone said (well wormholes finally got something).

Now we really appreciate it and the csm really pushed for it, but this isn't a CCP gift, this is a few fixes which the community wanted put in for years and that was pushed by enough csm's to actually put on the bug fix board.

Thank you csm for the push, but I'm not buying a cake and eating cookies praising CCP for actually listening. Thank you for doing it, but this isn't a "wormhole expansion". These are just a few bug fixes.

+1

I read the devpost and then the little angel on my left shoulder went all "This is awesome!". And then the little devil on my right shoulder looked up from his Laptop and was all "but what if the Orca removes fleet hangar access inbetween taking one subsystem and putting the other back in? is that a single transaction with isolated credentials or can we create a black hole? i like black holes."

Now I'm conflicted

Thank you, best feature of this expansion so far for wormhole dwellers, closely followed by SMA loot being fixed.

I feel an important point raised by Laz has been buried by all the exuberance, and this change, along with yurts, has a very significant effect on the meta-game.

this comes from 3 main points.

-All T3's have cloak / interdiction nullifier subsystems, Cloak allows T3's to be bridged in via Black ops, ignoring cynojammers and giving these ships superb mobility. Interdiction nullifier allows T3's to escape from virtually any engagement. The drawback is that using these 2 subsystems cripples the ability of T3's to fight.

-All T3's have excellent combat subsystems. There are arguments to be made about whether Strategic Cruisers are the single most powerful subcap type in a fleet fight, but combat fit T3's are easily able to hold their ground against "conventional" fleets.

-Mobile Depots allow players to refit with no prior preparation, no need to set up a safe tower in advance, or an available station.

This means T3's can refit from Travel to Combat and vice versa in a hostile system without any support/preparation.

So what are the implications of this? Extremely mobile T3 fleets that can be bridged anywhere with a Blops, refit in system to combat for whatever they have to fight, if the fight goes badly, drop yurt in combat and refit to Nullifier to moonwalk out. Once fighting is done or fleet has left field, bridge back with a Black ops.

It all sounds awesome and cool, but I don't believe for a second that this will be "balanced". Traditionally T3's have been balanced by having the possibility to do a lot of jobs, but not all at once. With mobile depots, they basically can do everything at once. This change will completely obsolete Blops battleships and Recons in their combat roles.

If these changes go live as is, expect a massive arms race between all Nullsec Alliances to see who can put together the biggest fleet of black ops T3s.

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There is a thing as "too versatile" and "too malleable". Currently, T3's can outrun any battleship, out-fight any HAC, out tank and out tackle any recon. The only reason a T3 is not being used to fill every role (except maybe logistics) is price, and some more affluent alliances indeed are using them for every role.

And now they can go anywhere, and extract from any fight that can go badly, all for roughly twice the price of the much more limited HAC, much more versatile than the similarly priced navy Battleships, and much less expensive than the niche and flimsy Blops battleships.

This is another interesting point about the interaction between yurts and combat.

Yurts can anchor in 45 seconds, and if they allow in-combat refitting, you can expect this kind of hilarity to break out.

- When fighting rail/laser boats, the entire fleet refits hardeners and laughs off enemy damage
- If a tech 3 fleets is bubbled/trapped, entire fleet refits nullifier and o7's out
- If roaming in a pimp fit, and engaged in a fight you can not win, drop yurt, tank for 45 seconds, then deposit shinnies into yurt. Come back later within 48 hours to retrieve mods.