EVE General Discussion

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my Cynabal still laughs at it.

It's enough to see what kind of effect it will have without creating another FOTM.

Of course this is not enough. I know CCP thinks of blasters and rails from a paper-rock-scissors mentality based on DPS....but I think it should think of paper rock scissors based on two things....

Weapons that use no ammo should be weaker....weapons that use no cap should be weaker....
Weapons that use BOTH ammo and cap should be the strongest...simple as that. :)

How would I change it without changing the DPS? Alpha.

Specifically Caldari Railgunships....I would change the SHIPS to be very high alpha. How? Think of the Railgun as a highpowered sniper rifle. Double the volley....double the rate of fire.... so instead of a 500dmg volley every 7 seconds, a 1000dmg volley ever 14. The nature of a sniper in real military applications is 1 shot 1 kill. So to balance this new higher alpha, perhaps only 1/2 the charges before reloading as well. Blasters should have the opposite....1/2 the volley but halfing the rate of fire. Since gallente ships have actual DAMAGE bonuses, I would balance them seperately.

so from your view that means that:

A) basically blaster ships with damage mods are bad fits now? since I'll need to cram TE's on them and in the case of the deimos that means 2-3 lowslots of the 6 it has, so that it becomes a bad version of the vagabond? I mean it still has mobility issues, so that means that the lowslots are either for damage mods (and still be slower and have less damage projection than the vagabond) or nano (which will need 2 slots for to even compete with a vaga without any kind of nano even after changes), or going with tank and simply failing to reach the vaga every time.

ok it is a bit of a pigeonholing, a vaga vs deimos competition, but with a 2TE deimos + null and HAC 4, the falloff + optimal for a deimos is on the 24km range, and on the vaga is at about 40km range, and that's comparing a deimos with neutrons and a vagabond with 220's. atm without any speed changes, the vaga is a whole 800m/sec faster than the deimos, and that's not even using any speed mod besides a mwd in it. The zealot, as a counterpoint, will be doing, disregarding tracking, full damage with HPL and scorch aaaaaaaaallll the way till 40km and you still have about 8km falloff, while maintaining similar base speed with mwd. this using just 2 TE's.
damage wise, with just guns, we're looking at a range between 222dps of the barrage vaga all the way to 280dps of the null neutron deimos, with the zealot sitting confortably on the 260dps range. The 5% damage boost on the blasters might pull it to the 300dps damage barrier when using neutrons+null, and the more relaxed fittings might make it actually able to slam neutrons on it without running out grid, but the very same core issues that plagued blaster ships are still there: not enough damage for a point blank weapon (which you're trying to transform into a poor man's version of the autocannon btw), coupled with hulls that don't have enough mobility to bring the minimal damage advantage to bear.


B)

I'm not going to go through all this point by point because i just woke up, but you keep talking about the agility issues.


Have you even logged in to see how agile they are, because it doesn't sound like you have.


Also if you're so sure of yourself why haven't you taken up my offer to run tests on the test server, I mean the ships are 100 isk each, theres no actual barier to stop you, the killmails aren't really killmails, and all you lose is 100 isk.

I'm literally challenging all the naysayers to back it up on the test server any time they want, but none of you are even considering the option?

You can spread sheet all the numbers you want, but in the end if you don't back it up with actual game play then whats the point?