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The Female Character "Attributes"

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mama guru
Yazatas.
#321 - 2013-11-03 15:40:06 UTC
Most female avatars in this game tends to look like cheap hookers or coke sniffing beauty paegants with a BMI of 12. It does look kinda rediculous but who cares. Im not gonna stop my fellow man from designing the facebook profile pic of their dreams.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#322 - 2013-11-03 16:05:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Destination SkillQueue
S1euth wrote:
Aya Shinomiya wrote:


Why do you think men also have nipples although they do not need them?


All male mammals have nipples because testosterone production (which kickstarts the development of male organs and features and stifles the development of female organs) begins later in fetal development.

So, to answer your question we must know why does testosterone production begin later in the development process. Gender isn't as important as beginning the development of vital or complicated organs, such as the brain, for a species to succeed.

<3 your thread derailment.

That's not entirely a satisfactory explanation of nipples though. Different hormone production seems to mainly answer why some features will continue to develop in different diverging paths, but it doesn't entirely answer why both genders share the same initial structure. I'd guess the answer is simply that since the structure is important to one of the genders and therefore the success of the species, the basic structure is so integrated to the genes, that it will manifest in all genders.
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#323 - 2013-11-03 16:15:59 UTC
17 pages of zero content ftw.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#324 - 2013-11-03 16:29:48 UTC
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Violet Crumble wrote:
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Digits Kho wrote:
When i was in school i learned that we all basicaly start off as women ( that must be the reason men have nipples). So i was thinking maybe thats the reason why big warm soft or small but firm and neat boobs make such an impact on real life and game decisions.


That is right. The gender is choosen very late in the development of an unborn child. But I think it is more a symbol for fertility. We are all still driven by instincts.


Um what?

I think you need to go do a semester of genetics. Gender is determined at conception (the first moment of the start of a new life), not chosen late in gestation.


Why do you think men also have nipples although they do not need them?


This thread is now a Staging Class Flat Earth Society Incursion.... the discussion will now turn to how Geocentricity is not only true, but you are stupid for not believing it. There is now a 50% penalty to denying Spontaneous Generation, a 25% penalty to damage dealt by anyone who doesn't subcribe to Literal Genesis Theory, and the effects of Evolution and Big Bang Theories are completely nullified.
The penalties will remain until the commander of the Incursion is defeated, or everyone accepts Jesus Christ as their Personal Lord and Saviour.

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AndromacheDarkstar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#325 - 2013-11-03 16:35:03 UTC
Slims girls with Big **** are the most attractive version of the Female form. There is no debate about that. Its a fact rooted in science.
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#326 - 2013-11-03 16:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
Slims girls with Big **** are the most attractive version of the Female form. There is no debate about that. Its a fact rooted in science.






Have you ever looked at statistics for most common "erotic art" searches?
"Thick" seems to be the pervading most-popular search parameter, overall. Indicating that your "fact" is pretty well useless in an actual debate on the subject.
Don't believe the dumbass fashion magazines. They tell you nothing but lies.

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Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#327 - 2013-11-03 16:51:55 UTC
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Dear EVE Online players,


When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.

I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.

I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.


Regards.



Hold the phone!! Straight guys like that kind of stuff??? This is news worthy of Fox!!! Arrow
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#328 - 2013-11-03 16:54:43 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Dear EVE Online players,


When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.

I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.

I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.


Regards.



Hold the phone!! Straight guys like that kind of stuff??? This is news worthy of Fox!!! Arrow


Fox News is shaken to its core at the recent revelation that one of their most senior correspondents is gay. They won't be reporting on anything but that, for a while.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Aya Shinomiya
Promethean Ascension
#329 - 2013-11-03 17:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Aya Shinomiya
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Aya Shinomiya
Promethean Ascension
#330 - 2013-11-03 17:07:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Aya Shinomiya
S1euth wrote:
Aya Shinomiya wrote:


Why do you think men also have nipples although they do not need them?


All male mammals have nipples because testosterone production (which kickstarts the development of male organs and features and stifles the development of female organs) begins later in fetal development.

So, to answer your question we must know why does testosterone production begin later in the development process. Gender isn't as important as beginning the development of vital or complicated organs, such as the brain, for a species to succeed.


Right. That the gender is determinated from the beginning would also not explain why there are not a few people which in fact have both genders or feel "wrong" with their gender. I mean not these Gender-Mainstream weirdos. I recently saw a documentation on this and the doctor argued in the same way like you and that the gender is determinated later by hormones and sometimes some people get too many of another type so there development goes in both directions.

Aya Shinomiya wrote:
<3 your thread derailment.


Not my fault. :D I only say my opinion like all others.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#331 - 2013-11-03 17:10:30 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
S1euth wrote:
Aya Shinomiya wrote:


Why do you think men also have nipples although they do not need them?


All male mammals have nipples because testosterone production (which kickstarts the development of male organs and features and stifles the development of female organs) begins later in fetal development.

So, to answer your question we must know why does testosterone production begin later in the development process. Gender isn't as important as beginning the development of vital or complicated organs, such as the brain, for a species to succeed.

<3 your thread derailment.

That's not entirely a satisfactory explanation of nipples though. Different hormone production seems to mainly answer why some features will continue to develop in different diverging paths, but it doesn't entirely answer why both genders share the same initial structure. I'd guess the answer is simply that since the structure is important to one of the genders and therefore the success of the species, the basic structure is so integrated to the genes, that it will manifest in all genders.


The evolutive precursor to mammary glands are sweat glands, and so we can safely assume that the base code for present day breasts is quite old and there's never been any pressure to split it into two versions.

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Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#332 - 2013-11-03 17:18:21 UTC
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Right. That the gender is determinated from the beginning would also not explain why there are not a few people which in fact have both genders or feel "wrong" with their gender. I mean not these Gender-Mainstream weirdos. I recently saw a documentation on this and the doctor argued in the same way like you and that the gender is determinated later by hormones and sometimes some people get too many of another type so there development goes in both directions.



How do science deniers even exist in public media, much less become interested in sci fi?
I'm completely baffled, every time I run into someone that just flatly refuses to believe that science and medicine aren't out to kill us all.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#333 - 2013-11-03 17:18:38 UTC
Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Dear EVE Online players,


When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.

I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.

I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.


Regards.


I am sure you have seen some BBC documentary showing the pre-historic statuette of fertility known as Venus of Willendorf.

It's been tens of millenia since men (genetically?) desire the same kind of woman.

EvE players are mostly men and are just an (in)volution of those 22,000 years ago cave men.

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voetius
Grundrisse
#334 - 2013-11-03 17:18:52 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
S1euth wrote:
Aya Shinomiya wrote:


Why do you think men also have nipples although they do not need them?


All male mammals have nipples because testosterone production (which kickstarts the development of male organs and features and stifles the development of female organs) begins later in fetal development.

So, to answer your question we must know why does testosterone production begin later in the development process. Gender isn't as important as beginning the development of vital or complicated organs, such as the brain, for a species to succeed.

<3 your thread derailment.

That's not entirely a satisfactory explanation of nipples though. Different hormone production seems to mainly answer why some features will continue to develop in different diverging paths, but it doesn't entirely answer why both genders share the same initial structure. I'd guess the answer is simply that since the structure is important to one of the genders and therefore the success of the species, the basic structure is so integrated to the genes, that it will manifest in all genders.


The evolutive precursor to mammary glands are sweat glands, and so we can safely assume that the base code for present day breasts is quite old and there's never been any pressure to split it into two versions.


^ What Ishtanchuk said more or less. I recall reading in a text on evolution that in some cases evolution decides that it is just more efficient to use the same body play for both male and female. Not only nipples but the basic plan for male and female genitals in humans as well (despite the apparent differences, look at the simliarities in terms of structure).
Angeal MacNova
Holefood Inc.
Warriors of the Blood God
#335 - 2013-11-03 17:34:10 UTC
Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/goodnight-sweet-prince/

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/the-untold-story/

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Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#336 - 2013-11-03 17:39:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Angeal MacNova wrote:
Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.



Which is average in the Western half of the world. Most would consider C-cup to be "perfect", or at the very least, "ideal".

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Digits Kho
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#337 - 2013-11-03 18:40:28 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
17 pages of zero content ftw.

If you cant handle our complicated discussion then get out
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#338 - 2013-11-03 18:54:03 UTC
Isaac Collins wrote:
No one cares, I repeat. No one. Not anyone, no individual exist with a real care for this matter. The game is 94% men (90% Male if you wanna be generous) We could have women looking like Quazymodo's grandad after he got his anus pillaged by the Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory and No one would legitimately care.


Give this man a prize.

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Richard Ramlrez
Doomheim
#339 - 2013-11-03 19:56:59 UTC
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
Slims girls with Big **** are the most attractive version of the Female form. There is no debate about that. Its a fact rooted in science.







Indeed. Its basically the perfect body that most people can think of.
AndromacheDarkstar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#340 - 2013-11-03 20:17:13 UTC
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
Slims girls with Big **** are the most attractive version of the Female form. There is no debate about that. Its a fact rooted in science.







Indeed. Its basically the perfect body that most people can think of.


Debate over? Did i win.