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Multiboxing "gaming" feels like a job

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Maximum Dealer
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-11-01 13:00:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximum Dealer
So I have 2 accounts and most times I run both simultaneously I feel like Im at a second job. Obviously I need to run them in windowed mode which also nerfs the graphical experience... my sreen is 1920x1200 so I run them at 1680x1050 and I can easily move from on to the other.

Certain activities like missions + logistic are "nice" but others like mining are kind of stressing, I dont even imagin how to PVP with 2 accounts as micromanagement seems like an issue for me. I guess its a matter of patience and getting used to, but still. And those miners with 5+ accounts, damn, I couldnt stand it.

I know the side benefits aswell, for example having an scout alt, a hauler alt, etc. But you need to pay for the 2nd account.

Most of times people talk about the profit of having more than 1 account. (in terms of ISK) While this might be true, I would like to pay my accounts with PLEX and definitely looks like a job to generate 20m isk per day per account. As micromanagement is an issue, I obtain less isk/hour/account with 2 instances than with 1.

i.e. if I do 15m per hour with activity "X" and one character, I will get 24m per hour with same activity and 2 accounts. Which yields a 12m/hour per character so I need to spend more time to fund the 2 accounts. More work, less enjoyment, more stress.

I know everyone in the forums make billions per month passively and brag about epeen and stuff. I am talking about regular players who don't like to spend ridiculous amounts of time online and enjoy the game.

As I mentioned I enjoy much more the game with 1 account and full size screen. I can focus on what Im doing and even "empthyse" with my character instead of being a chief operating with 2 or more slaves to do stuff and earn the so preciated ISK.


So... is this familiar to you or am I weird LOL.

By no means I attempt to discourage multiboxing each one what he likes, just sharing my feelings about it.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#2 - 2013-11-01 13:59:45 UTC
As a new player I think one of the biggest advantages of multiple characters is to have them training different skill paths. For example, one of them a miner and the other for running missions or exploration or PvP. I'm not trying to plex right away as I need to spend the isk I make on ships, modules and skill books. After I get a base I'll look at making enough to start plexing my account.

I know what you mean about having the window big enough to see your ship, planets, etc. Is your computer fast enough to run two monitors? If so, you can get a used one off of craigslist incredibly cheap, or even find a friend who would loan you one that they don't use anymore.

If you decide you don't get enough enjoyment, or payoff, from two accounts I think you can merge then onto a single account and take turns which one you're currently training/playing.
Braxus Deninard
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#3 - 2013-11-01 16:22:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Braxus Deninard
I realise this is the new player section, but if you're making 12m per hour per account you really shouldn't even have 2 accounts. Incursions can net 150-200m an hour per account and you really don't need to be that highly skilled for them. Yes they're battleship hulls which do cost quite a bit for a new player, but for the cost of a PLEX you could fit at least 2 with a solid fit.

Just something to think about - not much of an incursion runner myself as it gets boring very fast, but 2 accounts for 12m per account per hour just seems insane.
Skurja Volpar
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#4 - 2013-11-01 17:35:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Skurja Volpar
Don't feel like an army of alts is some arbitrary requirement for being competitive in eve, your average pvper isn't swiftly alt-tabbing between 3 pilots on the same field, it's more like the odd booster-alt or in extreme and highly lame circumstances, a falcon alt to warp in when things go wrong.

People get alts because it's convenient. Like null seccers keep an alt in high so they can still make ISK when they're deployed in a war, or new players get one, because they're limited by low sp, and want to branch out into something without messing up their skill plan on their main. I have one to support my main with trade isk, and occasionly for scouting or hauling or other stuff I don't want to train on my main.

Most actual multiboxers, eg some one who uses software that duplicates one mouse click across all alts at the same time, are just miners, because it's pretty limiting and can only be used for relatively simple tasks.

Also unless your super space rich, plexing multiple accounts will always feel like work, and is big black hole of ISK you could be having much more fun with. I'd advise sticking to one account, and not rushing into buying plex until your SP and game knowledge starts earning you bigger money.
Graabeerd Khagah
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#5 - 2013-11-01 18:41:24 UTC
Multi Boxing is a bit of yes micro management and one does have to be really on top. Take like yesterday, (Oct31st) I had two characters parked in the Stacmon system to make an eight (8) jump trip to my new home system, One ship equipped with a cloak, the other just to escort to our final destination. This method of jumping thru the next gate to scout does require a certain amount of concentration to be successful at getting to the destination station in one piece really requires watching local and overview at the same time.

The other is mining, if you have like I do, a Retriever and Venture in your fleet, the Venture of course will fill fast and you have to manage that ship more closely because the time it takes to fully load the hold compared to the Retriever which takes more time to load it. So multi boxing has it's good and bad points all around.
Keno Skir
#6 - 2013-11-01 18:54:33 UTC
Skurja Volpar wrote:
and highly lame circumstances, a falcon alt to warp in


I don't have a falcon alt or anything, but you sound just a teensy bit butt-hurt :D Guesse you should have had a falcon in your squad if you lost to one...
Pragda
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-11-01 19:55:54 UTC
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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-11-01 21:42:59 UTC
I hate alts. They ruin any kind of immersion experience. Unfortunately there are some tasks in Eve that simply can't be done safely without them. Luckily mining isn't one of those. Neither is missioning. Better to bring along a friend and enjoy the experience rather than alt-tabbing back and forth. If you are playing a game and "grinding " anything or feel like you are working a second job, then you're either playing it wrong or its a bad game.

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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#9 - 2013-11-01 23:31:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
If playing multi characters ruins your fun--Stop!

Really, just because someone else enjoys something and profits doesn't mean you have to follow their example. Play within your means and look around for different ways to make isk. I have alts, but I don't "play" them, they are just market alts with tycoon so I can have lots of market orders at need, or maybe explore a different section of space, check prices elsewhere, but then I come back and do all the work on my main. I've tried playing with my alt and main in the same system a couple of times, and gave up on it. No fun at all.

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Skurja Volpar
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#10 - 2013-11-02 12:26:21 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Skurja Volpar wrote:
and highly lame circumstances, a falcon alt to warp in


I don't have a falcon alt or anything, but you sound just a teensy bit butt-hurt :D Guesse you should have had a falcon in your squad if you lost to one...


No butthurt here :P just an example. Get in your falcon and acquire that tasty tasty jam.
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-11-02 13:05:24 UTC
gah, trying to PLEX two accounts with low income is unspeakably grim. i funded one account this way for 6 months and it made me not want to log in.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-11-02 15:01:05 UTC
If you don't like multiboxing, why do you multibox in the first place?

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#13 - 2013-11-02 15:07:16 UTC
Maximum Dealer wrote:
So I have 2 accounts and most times I run both simultaneously I feel like Im at a second job.

If you ever feel that a game really feels like a second job, then stop, do something else or seek professional help.

Seriously, Eve is real, but it is a game.

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