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what happens when trolls become the establishment?

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None ofthe Above
#21 - 2013-11-02 00:15:52 UTC
That's an easy one:

:CCP:

Next question?

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#22 - 2013-11-02 00:20:09 UTC
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
actually i was talking about the goons.


The troll goonstablishment.


correct.

when there's a few of them around in some obscure corner of space being 'edgy' and finding loopholes in the game they are kind of cool.

but when they become the most powerful alliance in the game and you realize they are really just a bunch of guys that play the game too much and actually take it a bit too seriously it kind of ruins the mystique.

imho.


And so who among us do you think are evil goonies Mr. conspiracy theory?

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Grendel Sickswitch
#23 - 2013-11-02 00:25:03 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
actually i was talking about the goons.


The troll goonstablishment.


correct.

when there's a few of them around in some obscure corner of space being 'edgy' and finding loopholes in the game they are kind of cool.

but when they become the most powerful alliance in the game and you realize they are really just a bunch of guys that play the game too much and actually take it a bit too seriously it kind of ruins the mystique.

imho.


And so who among us do you think are evil goonies Mr. conspiracy theory?


i dunno, but there's 10,000 of them.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliances
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#24 - 2013-11-02 00:54:52 UTC
Holy crap!!!

This has somehow morphed into a GrrGoons thread. Shocked

Dr. Malcolm was right.

"Life, uh, finds a way."

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#25 - 2013-11-02 00:55:05 UTC
The question the OP is really asking is "What do we do about The grrGoon Problem?"

The obvious answer is, "Turn EVE into a themepark MMO where the developers (whom we trust implicitly) will protect from the evil grrGoons."

Some may say that this answer is problematic and will point to the existence of Goons in themepark MMOs such as World of Warcraft where developers allegedly protect users from grrGoons running completely wild. However this is missing the point. In these MMOs, the only power grrGoons have is to park their oversized dragons over questgivers and to kite world bosses to lowbie zones to slaughter innocents. But in EVE as it is now, grrGoons can conquer the entire non-empire universe.

That's what this so-called "freedom" gets you, folks. Is it really freedom when the grrGoons have what you don't? In themepark MMOs, grrGoons are limited to low-level griefing just like the rest us. Isn't that true what freedom is?

/tongue firmly in cheek
Grendel Sickswitch
#26 - 2013-11-02 01:00:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Grendel Sickswitch
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
The question the OP is really asking is "What do we do about The grrGoon Problem?"

The obvious answer is, "Turn EVE into a themepark MMO where the developers (whom we trust implicitly) will protect from the evil grrGoons."

Some may say that this answer is problematic and will point to the existence of Goons in themepark MMOs such as World of Warcraft where developers allegedly protect users from grrGoons running completely wild. However this is missing the point. In these MMOs, the only power grrGoons have is to park their oversized dragons over questgivers and to kite world bosses to lowbie zones to slaughter innocents. But in EVE as it is now, grrGoons can conquer the entire non-empire universe.

That's what this so-called "freedom" gets you, folks. Is it really freedom when the grrGoons have what you don't? In themepark MMOs, grrGoons are limited to low-level griefing just like the rest us. Isn't that true what freedom is?

/tongue firmly in cheek



you're missing the point. i enjoy trolling and griefing myself, but when the largest and most powerful alliance in a game are trolls they become the establishment and a bit lame.

trolls should be a small poorly organised bunch of "goons" having fun and annoying people. not putting huge amounts of time taking a game incredibly seriously for over 10 years.

what i'm trying to say is they have become what they hated in the first place.
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#27 - 2013-11-02 01:06:39 UTC
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:

you're missing the point. i enjoy trolling and griefing myself, but when the largest and most powerful alliance in a game are trolls they become the establishment and a bit lame.

trolls should be a small poorly organised bunch of "goons" having fun and annoying people. not putting huge amounts of time taking a game incredibly seriously for over 10 years.

what i'm trying to say is they have become what they hated in the first place.



Oh, first of all: get a sense of humor if you have to buy it at Wal-Mart. Second: who are you to say what the Goons should or should not do or be? Is there a law somewhere? Is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to pay tenbux to Something Awful and then join the Goons? Yes? No?
Grendel Sickswitch
#28 - 2013-11-02 01:09:08 UTC
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:

you're missing the point. i enjoy trolling and griefing myself, but when the largest and most powerful alliance in a game are trolls they become the establishment and a bit lame.

trolls should be a small poorly organised bunch of "goons" having fun and annoying people. not putting huge amounts of time taking a game incredibly seriously for over 10 years.

what i'm trying to say is they have become what they hated in the first place.



Oh, first of all: get a sense of humor if you have to buy it at Wal-Mart. Second: who are you to say what the Goons should or should not do or be? Is there a law somewhere? Is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to pay tenbux to Something Awful and then join the Goons? Yes? No?


calm down love
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#29 - 2013-11-02 01:13:00 UTC
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:

you're missing the point. i enjoy trolling and griefing myself, but when the largest and most powerful alliance in a game are trolls they become the establishment and a bit lame.

trolls should be a small poorly organised bunch of "goons" having fun and annoying people. not putting huge amounts of time taking a game incredibly seriously for over 10 years.

what i'm trying to say is they have become what they hated in the first place.



Oh, first of all: get a sense of humor if you have to buy it at Wal-Mart. Second: who are you to say what the Goons should or should not do or be? Is there a law somewhere? Is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to pay tenbux to Something Awful and then join the Goons? Yes? No?


calm down love



I ain't your love, grandpa.
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#30 - 2013-11-02 01:15:01 UTC
They put umbrellas everywhere because they turn to stone in the sun ?


or was this another "to get to the other side?" riddle?

.
Grendel Sickswitch
#31 - 2013-11-02 01:19:17 UTC
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:

you're missing the point. i enjoy trolling and griefing myself, but when the largest and most powerful alliance in a game are trolls they become the establishment and a bit lame.

trolls should be a small poorly organised bunch of "goons" having fun and annoying people. not putting huge amounts of time taking a game incredibly seriously for over 10 years.

what i'm trying to say is they have become what they hated in the first place.



Oh, first of all: get a sense of humor if you have to buy it at Wal-Mart. Second: who are you to say what the Goons should or should not do or be? Is there a law somewhere? Is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to pay tenbux to Something Awful and then join the Goons? Yes? No?


calm down love



I ain't your love, grandpa.



just calm down, okay? can you do that for me?
Lena Lazair
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-11-02 01:22:11 UTC
They invest heavily in infrastructure maintenance and all the bridges become safe again.
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#33 - 2013-11-02 01:26:17 UTC
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:

you're missing the point. i enjoy trolling and griefing myself, but when the largest and most powerful alliance in a game are trolls they become the establishment and a bit lame.

trolls should be a small poorly organised bunch of "goons" having fun and annoying people. not putting huge amounts of time taking a game incredibly seriously for over 10 years.

what i'm trying to say is they have become what they hated in the first place.



Oh, first of all: get a sense of humor if you have to buy it at Wal-Mart. Second: who are you to say what the Goons should or should not do or be? Is there a law somewhere? Is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to pay tenbux to Something Awful and then join the Goons? Yes? No?


calm down love



I ain't your love, grandpa.



just calm down, okay? can you do that for me?


Can you stop being humorless and condescending? Can you do that for me? When you start a grrGoons thread saying things that get posted and said about three times a week, every week, people naturally aren't going to take you seriously.

Sorry if I'm not "calm" enough for you. I've cancelled my accounts and I really don't care how I come across anymore.


Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#34 - 2013-11-02 01:28:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Himnos Altar
"Mittens" wrote:
GrrGoons thread in General Discussion this morning, Pubbie Tears on hurting buttocks. This city is afraid of me. I have seen its true face. The forums are extended gutters and the gutters are full of tears and when the drains finally scab over, all the nubs will drown. The accumulated filth of all their rabble and whining will foam up about their waists and all the Carebears and Null Sec wannabes will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."


Who Trolls the Trollmen?


"Ben Kenobi" wrote:
Who's the more foolish? The Troll or the Troll who feeds him?
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#35 - 2013-11-02 01:30:25 UTC
Himnos Altar wrote:
"Mittens" wrote:
GrrGoons thread in General Discussion this morning, Pubbie Tears on hurting buttocks. This city is afraid of me. I have seen its true face. The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of tears and when the drains finally scab over, all the pubbies will drown. The accumulated filth of all their rabble and whining will foam up about their waists and all the Carebears and Null Sec wannabes will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."



LOL. He's such a lunatic.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2013-11-02 01:44:04 UTC
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:

you're missing the point. i enjoy trolling and griefing myself, but when the largest and most powerful alliance in a game are trolls they become the establishment and a bit lame.

trolls should be a small poorly organised bunch of "goons" having fun and annoying people. not putting huge amounts of time taking a game incredibly seriously for over 10 years.

what i'm trying to say is they have become what they hated in the first place.


Well, you seem pretty annoyed and we're still having fun, so mission accomplished.
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#37 - 2013-11-02 01:54:09 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Grendel Sickswitch wrote:

you're missing the point. i enjoy trolling and griefing myself, but when the largest and most powerful alliance in a game are trolls they become the establishment and a bit lame.

trolls should be a small poorly organised bunch of "goons" having fun and annoying people. not putting huge amounts of time taking a game incredibly seriously for over 10 years.

what i'm trying to say is they have become what they hated in the first place.


Well, you seem pretty annoyed and we're still having fun, so mission accomplished.


Yea, I like those damn Goons.

But maybe the OP is right...

They are pretty crappy people for providing content. Beginning a war that would see the biggest single arena PvP battle in games history...you know, so on and so forth...

Roll

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-11-02 02:06:36 UTC
We built this city
We built this city on Block and Troll...


I should probably switch to coffee.

If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg

But in purple, I'm stunning!
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#39 - 2013-11-02 02:15:20 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:
We built this city
We built this city on Block and Troll...


I should probably switch to coffee.


this was such a nice and cheerful thread..

.. thanks for bringing it back on track !

.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-11-02 03:36:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugia3
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