Market Discussions

Wow, this is a long and boring thread.
Let's just answer the questions though.
Yes, of course a player of a social game is generally worth more than the player pays directly for subscription. With some cash being paid into vanity items, as an average, working out total income divided by total players would give you an average of more than sub cost.
Yes, a free player would be worth money, as they still interact socially in game, they still generate content, and by interacting with the market, they help move the economy. This in turn helps keep plexes cycling, keeping people happy to inject plexes into the game.
However, if CCP were to allow some players to play for free, pretty soon they'd have to let all players play for free, which in turn would drop plex prices and inevitably lead to a lack of income.

That all said, it's an utterly pointless discussion. It's an obvious question that you are trying to stir up an in depth discussion about, but there's really nothing there to discuss.
Unless you actually have a goal to achieve, all you are doing is trying to get people to respond so you can then argue them into the ground until they agree with you.

Oh and as for vocabulary, anyone can pick up any words they want and pepper their sentences with them. Too many people seem to think that the more "advanced" their words are the smarter they are, and it shows they are well spoken.
That's not really the case. A good linguist is able to fit their language to their audience, as the goal of language is to convey your thoughts. Now consider the audience of an online game forum.

- yes .. that is a pertinent question "good" quetion


"Fair" question" ok ?

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here is my intention goal "Point" .:

I have +- 200 billion of "isk and isk "worth of stuff" [ s] "EVE wealth"[/s]

.. I mostly think PLEX have been a good store of EVE wealth long term.
- My goal is keeping up with what players think is " a lot" of isk.
- "how much isk does this T1 cruiser cos compared to 3 years ago isn't enough for me to feel like I'm "keeping up"

- In the past I valued Characters as a good PLEX equivalent - and still do but I have some nagging worries " I'm bothered about something"

I don't think CCP is going to Go COMPLETELY to F2P
- I AM concerned "worried" that with more Marketing professionals working at CCP they'll follow marketing tools use in other industries "the new marketing idiots they hired are going to bork things up thinking that EVE is the same as Cheetos"

-- as Ialluded to "said in a post above", we're all famiiar with "used to" retailers stores and manufacturers companies that make stuff using coupons to motivate lure "get" people who are price sensitive "care a bout cost to buy things that they wouldn't have at a higher price . i.e. "like how' Cheerios cost $4.49 a box one day and are discounted to $1.99 another day

OK so,

You'd agree that "Isn't " Market Discussions forum is a good place to wonder about my "risk" in various types of ISK investments ?

I am concerned "worried" that CCP might use more of that selective discounting "start having more sales" that make game-time or second character training cheaper lots of the time

how frequently "howmany times" that happens will affect "change" the $ cost of getting SP or chars with more more training

So..

I was hoping to hear other peoples thoughts on How CCP marketing guys (not you or I but those guys at CCP who make decisions) might see it.


IF they sell PLEX for a lower $ sometimes ... the over-all $ value of anything with a PLEX relation drops even more than the MUD inflation rate.
right?

Follow where I'm going ?

MY PAST IDEAS on avoiding the risk "playing it safe' don't seem to actually work :

I thought stuff that took real PLAYER time like player clicks doing Invention would be a good store of EVE wealth but the value of the items requiring T2 bpc's doesn't seem to track it properly.. things like Covert Cloaking Devices and Expanded Cargoholds don't seem to go up in ISK value in relation to compared with the opportunity costs of 'what the same time could earn" of doinng PVE at higher and higher rates of ISK per Hour of play.

I want to think of alternative "other" places to put my EVE wealth..

if they think that they'll get ahead in total $ by giving away extra game time .. they do it more huh?
what do you think CCP values different types of customers at beyond their $ inputs to them ?
does where they live and their age matter to the new Marketing guys ?

So all of this is about staying ahead of inflation with a paltry sum of 200 Billion.

A decent eve player can earn that amount in 3 months.
So we are not talking about a lifetime sum here.

Eve economists have produced inflation charts of eve. The trend line is less than 10% per year. But at any given moment in time
inflation does fluctuate from 50% below the trend to 50% above the trend line.

I suspect you are capturing the market at these high and low points and it makes you believe that inflation is out of control.

Consider with that swing which sometimes occurs monthly the value of your 200 Billion can range from 100 billion to 300 billion.
All in the same month. I think you are getting yourself worked up for no reason. You obviously have an over inflated opinion of how much wealth you have.

hey look at me, I am smart I have 200b in EVE, and people in the real world are tired of my s***, so I come to the forums and throw unnecessary wrong words to sound smart, but it seems everywhere I go they can see through my s***, so maybe I am not that smart, I just lie to myself to get out of my deep depression.

pompous a** m****f*****.