Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It's long past due for bombers, and the bomb launchers to be revisited. Besides reducing the PG cost of T2 torp launchers, the bomb launchers need to have the ability to fire multiple bombs in rapid secession. Bomb damage needs to be increased, and/or the sig radius penalty needs to be removed. The ability to carry a max of 3 bombs is completely useless due to the reactivation delay.

That is all.

I dont think you realize what you are asking for. These changes would make it possible to allow 1 bombers can perform the work of 5 or 6.

No one person (or two) should be able to nuke an entire fleet by themselves. That's why AOE Doomsdays were nerfed.

I do realize what I'm asking for. One bomber should be able to launch multiple bombs. It's not important if one player will be able to do the task of what 5-6 can do (and that would only work if the launcher could hold 5-6 bombs). With my proposed changes, nuking a fleet (solo) will be dependent on the size and composition of the fleet.

That's not relevant.

The bomb launcher module needs to be revisited. There's no reason at this stage in the game, that the bomb launcher needs to be limited in rate of fire and activation delay.

Sure there is. It would be OP as hell. One bomber should not be able to put out 30k damage in under a minute, especially not AOE damage.

Same for the sig damage reduction, its an important way to keep bombers balanced against smaller ships.

We need more people sitting around in bombers taking potshots? You think that's the solo activity this game is missing?

Here's a counter proposal. How about two bombs? If, after you launch the first, you have the opportunity to stay uncloaked and fire a second bomb 4 seconds later. Big risk in doing so, with the payoff of more damage. No changes to the sig radius reduction.

As I said... you have no concept of game balance!

a.) "There is nothing in the history of this game regarding bomb launchers that backs you opinion":
There is a long history of AOE weapons in EvE. From mines to AOE DD's to Smartbombs to bombers. All of which have been utilized to wipe out entire fleets of ships. AOE weapons have been readily shown to be extremely powerful, and brought in check quite often when they are over-utilized. Bombers are already heavily utilized to take out large groups of people, but to do so it a challenge because coordinating bomb launches is difficult. Smart bombs are already utilized to take out large fleets, but to do so is a challenge because getting an enemy fleet within smartbomb range of your durka trap is a challenge, and difficult. Your suggestion is aimed at making them easier to use. (1 bomber now can do the job of 3 bombers).

b.) "My suggestion can and will encourage more solo activity, which this game sorely needs."
Cloaky, stabbed bombers that solo frigates, dessies, and weak cruisers by decloaking, dropping a bomb or three, and warping off to safety is NOT what this game needs. PvP should involve at least effort, and legitimate risks to boot!

c.) "adjusting the damage that the bombs do (removing sig radius penalty or increasing the bomb damage) is not unreasonable."
Yes it is... My bomber does 8k damage... how many frigs or dessies in game have 8k EHP? Very few.... At the moment, you need them to be MWD'ing to kill them with one bomb (usually), which makes it a challenge.

Sorry that bombing isn't easy kill mode for you... but anything worth doing should require some effort.

Your thread ideas are TERRIBLE, and I suspect your either incompetent at bombing at best, and most likely a troll to boot.

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Terrible horrible OP idea.


Increasing bomb RoF AND increasing bomb damage..... just...wow.

I love flying bombers, but this is bad, just...awful.

Are you trying to say that a solo bomber cannot do this now? I would seriously beg to differ. I have stalked gatecamps and waited patiently and when the time was right, cornholed a dictor and inty at the same time...on several occasions. Hell, Ive even wiped out t3 bcs with a single bomb.

Bomb damage is dependant on sig radius. Waiting for a target to use a MWD before bombing will seriously increase your chance to one shot your opponent. Learning to bomb, torp and TP at the same time....even more so.

Bombers are meant to be pack animals, not solo creatures. One bomber should not be able to do the damage of 3+ just because you don't have a fleet with you.

And since you're giving the bombs immunity to their own damage type, people will not be dropping three of them on a gatecamp.

They'll be dropping three hundred on anything that moves. Why is that good?