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Behaviors used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment or threat...and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets. Justifications and rationalizations for such behavior sometimes include differences of...behavior, or ability.

I can only truly say I wish that Erotica1 would die in front of his PC releasing his bowels on his chair, and being discovered alone with 50 cats eating his corpse.

Your [sic] all self centered , sadistic pieces of crap who do not care about the effect of their actions or who they hurt. Thats why we have laws and rules, because people like you would **** over whoever you felt like if we didn't.

Please stop using the "its just a game" bit. This has nothing even to do with EVE, this is about the cyber bullying , EVE is simply the medium being used to do said cyberbullying. I am asking the medium (CCP) to not allow itself to used as a focus for bullying

Logic [snort] this is about the feels man.

I've debated writing this up for a while now because anyone can see the kind of backlash im going to receive for doing so, but some topics are too important to be ignored.

In 2012 im sure you all remember there was an incident involving player on player harassment that tested the bounds of how far the quote "This is EVE" goes. Im referring of course to the Mittani incident http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Ki91U-mBE#t=3869.

I believe there is another player who routinely has stepped up their harassment to the point where it borders the same level, this player is Erotica 1 and her known associates the New Order. I would like to state that the harassment described does NOT in ANY way refer to the miner bumping/suicide ganking of this group. I am specifically referring to the harassment that is involved during Erotica 1's doubling ISK scam.

For those who do not know about Erotica 1's scam, it involves having many members of the New Order vouch for her that she is indeed a legitimate ISK doubler, aftwerwards Erotica will indeed start doubling the persons ISK. After a person has done this twice they are given the opportunity for a "Bonus Room", wherein the target must hand over every last bit of property they own as a sign of "good faith".

This is where the line between harmless and harassment starts, so far everything stated is simple scam tactics and is a "shame on you for believing them" moment. What occurs NEXT however is where I feel this group crosses the line of simple EVE trolling.

The target is lured into a third party mic chat to discuss finalizing the transaction. The entire conversation is recorded and will be uploaded to their minerbumping.com website for prosperity as well as a lengthy description of the event and worded in a way that will bring the most embarrassment to the target. If this seems familiar at all to the Mittani incident, its because it is. Public ridicule, a total lack of regard for how far they take the ridicule, it in no way benefits the game or "creates content".

Please listen to and read the following example:


https://soundcloud.com/minerbumping/Erotica1-scams-Hydra-and-makes-him-sing-Im-a-little-teapot

*Explained*

http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/05/hydra-headed-lies-part-1.html Part 1
http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/05/hydra-headed-lies-part-2.html Part 2
http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/06/hydra-headed-lies-part-3.html Part 3
http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/06/hydra-headed-lies-part-4.html Part 4
http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/06/hydra-headed-lies-part-5.html Part 5

As you can see, the players humiliate the target by having them do these embarrassing acts, and then post the .wav files for all of their fans to enjoy, lastly of course the player never had any chance of getting their items back or doubling their assets.

I urge the CSM and the CCP to really take a hard look at if this benefits the game at all. Exactly at what point do you stop to say, hey this is going too far, this isn't what was intended for EVE gameplay. I strongly believe that what is being allowed to occur currently is cyberbullying, illegal in many places. I am not requesting that the players be banned, their miner bumping actions be hindered, or even for them to stop the scam in general. I simply would like CCP to step in and halt any further promotion of this obscene practice of public ridicule and humiliation

I have only been here a month, and in that time this issue has so disgusted me that im already submitting requests to CSM and CCP, a month.

*edit* I'd like to state I started by first creating a support ticket about this issue, but was told I would have to bring this issue up through this channel.

I appreciate the two of you replying to this thread.

Your job as CSM's is to represent ALL of us player base, not just the oldfarts. I ask that you keep an open mind to the needs of every player, and consider that just because something has always been, doesn't make it right.

Here's my question for you...what do you expect the CSM to do, actually? They're just players of EVE, same as you, me, and everyone else. They don't have speshul GM powers. They don't have ANY powers, aside from talking to CCP in a slightly more direct way than the rest of us.


Lets say, somehow, you get the CSM behind you. Next summit meeting, they all stand up at CCP HQ and say "Hey, this singing for ransom thing is bad, make it stop!" CCP says "LOL, no".

You asked via petition, the GM's said you were wrong. They sent you to the forums for lulz. You're kinda a laughing stock of regular forum denizens. We egg you on over in the MB.com forums for more lolz. Are you grasping the pattern yet?


(Forgive me CSM's, if I've made you out to sound useless. You guys get stuff done...just, you don't do it the way OP thinks.)