EVE General Discussion

Saw this post on the mittani`s forum and it got me thinking. Would remaking SOV completly be better and how would you think it would be done?

Marlona Sky

It is pointless to build a new house on a foundation that is cracked and shattered. Practically all ideas in regards to fixing sovereignty only look as far as rebuilding a house on a broken foundation. I think the best course of action for us, if we really want to truly fix sovereignty, is to ask ourselves what results we would see across the null landscape (even FW because it does deal with territory control too) from a good system?

Keep in mind there will be many opinions about what they view would be good to see and another person would see that as bad. Just try and keep an open mind and don't be a **** about it.

A large variety of different structures to shoot

A mix of timer types, some more random than others


and most importantly

Very in-depth mechanics that players will have to fully explore in order to engage with



Which is to say, structures, timers, convoluted

Yes, it needs to be completely rebuilt from scratch, with an eye to the fundamentals of MMO theory in general. Eve isn't the only game grappling with ideas like persistent universes, player controlled areas, mass warfare, etc. The first company to get it right will likely be at the forefront of the next generation of MMOs, despite what the "everybody wants tablet games with microtransactions for cookies" so-called game industry "experts" suggest.

I can dig it. Drop everyones sov and rework the whole thing.

Just make sure you do it in winter

"- everyone starts off alive
-people are still alive during a TB outbreak
-some people survive said TB outbreak

as long as these evidences present i see no point in developing a vaccine to TB. What for? People don't like it but some people can deal with it.

Only when nearly everyone has died from TB - then it will be time to develop a preventative vaccine for TB."

bad example:
- TB (whatever it is) comes to people
- SOV 0.0 don't force anyone to come there and suffer => people DECIDED they will live there and "suffer"

Here's an idea - it's based on real life - if you want to take someone's territory you go there and kill them and then you occupy it with your forces. Then you defend it.

The EvE version - you drop a stupid module and go back to your territory and magically you are given that territory. Don't even need to be there for that. No need to have troops there to defend it its got magic invulnerability timers.

You are dead on. The worst game mechanic ever invented is the magical invincible mode and New Eden wide warning system. You want that system? You should have to defend it.

What I would like to see is a system where structures are more easily taken and defended on the fly. Do away with reinforcement timers, since that just causes alliances to ignore attacks until they've assembled a blob, and implement a more realistic alert system. Create a skill tree, Station Management, System Management and Region Management, that gives +1, +2 and +5 to the number of stations a pilot can manage. When a pilot is considered the station manager, they will receive an alert warning them the structure is under attack. No one else is warned, just the station manager. You could anchor structures without a manager, but then there would never be a warning if it gets attacked.

As for the reinforcement timer, it just makes no sense. It leads to group A blobbing the structure, putting it into reinforcement mode with no resistance, while group B tells their blob to be ready at noon tomorrow. Structures and systems in general should be both easier to take down, and easier to defend. An attack on a structure should consist of a single fight, making it possible for smaller groups to destroy them. On the other hand, solar systems should be defensible. Structures that buff allies, or debuff enemies, that actually fight back or buff structures. Perhaps NPC fighters and drones, or even fast attack craft. We, the capsuleers, aren't the only inhabitants of New Eden after all, and while we're busy elsewhere someone is running that station.

The possibilities are endless if we move away from the current blob and grind mechanics.

SOV is completely messed up, there is no dynamic in there, it takes way too much effort to take it, and thats why everybody is just friend with their neighbours, SOV is safe, safer as highsec could ever be, its carebears paradise please keep it like that, its fun shooting those newbs out there

I have an idea... give all the SOV to me, then make it so it cannot be taken over by anyone else, and then I can declare myself ruler of the Eve Universe. I'd let people fly and play in my space, for a fee of course.