Missions & Complexes

I wanted to bring back the Whole Incursion whine thread.

TDF recently popped an Incursion MOM while it was in Established leaving none up to farm or run, no real reason given but speculation in local says it was because they weren’t getting enough attention.

DIN pops a Mom every time they get contested, or feel like they are going to get contested, or feel like they haven’t been on the front page of the forums recently. DIN claims its members have 300 bil in each of their individual wallets so they don’t care if there’s an incursion up or not. They also claim they are doing it to teach ISN a lesson

ISN pops a mom when the fleet winds down mainly because they are too inconsiderate to consider the idea that anyone else would want to farm when they are not running. They claim they are doing it to improve community standards.

TVP pops a mom when they think someone else might get to it first, because who knows maybe getting in there and doing it first will stop anyone from doing it at all. Most TVP members have dreams of fat wallets and try doing it by running Incursions but lately the frequency they spawn is considerably less that the speed they get popped. They claim they are the biggest Incursion community so they get to set the standards, and pop the MOM due to popular vote.

Miscellaneous groups like WTM, WIN, ICU, Barn Flies, Misc. MILFS, and Nobody Knows US will pop the mom if they happen to get a fleet big enough, and use the ‘We are just following the big guys example’ as the reason.

I imagine that most pilots want to be left alone to make their ISKies without the constant drama, shortened game play time and additional grief. I can also see how some leaders are trying to appear like they are forcing an agreement, but they are not actually trying to make an agreement. And I see how popping the Incursion prevents anyone from making ISK and forces them to come to a table to talk, but nobody is talking, other than smack.

So many problems and problem communities but one real fact, the FC in charge of the fleet decides to do the MOM. So that person, regardless of any mitigating factors, is the one responsible for the lack of incursions.

Here’s a simple solution, Don’t Do It. To be more dramatic don’t warp into the site, of course warp to the site, align down the gate, but when the FC calls to take the gate just sit and watch. If half the Logi’s don’t go in there will be problems, if half the DPS doesn’t go in there will be an entirely different set of problems. But either way the FC should get the message that you’re not interested in his E-Peen, and his pseudo politics. You will lose out on one payment of 60 mil, but if this was to happen I am confident there will be several other groups that would be happy to have you help them farm, probably much more ISK, much better than the alternative of watching one self-absorbed guy standing on top an unimpressive hill yelling ‘King Of The Mountain’.

sounds like Incursions are creating exact type of content CCP were hoping for to be honest.

Yup, and I liked all the whine and the hilariousity of the different communities too. Just join the various chat-channels and have some laughs :D

Ofcourse, it was better ISK back in the old days, where everyone just farmed and agreements were present, but nowadays, it's just way more funny to just watch them.

Man these incursion noobs take themselves so seriously, its hilarious. Always moaning about something or other, mainly each other... good times, good tears...

Its a sandbox.

Get over it.

The mechanics are fine as far as I am concerned this is player content.

You should write a lecture about why running other peoples wormhole sites is bad also.

Also one about how ninja salvaging is killing Eve.

I'll take those just as seriously as this one, I promise.

You forgot removing local and removing afk cloaking.

Ok, so I got carried away with the long winded OP.

My point was obviously lost in there so for the ADD among us here’s the brief version;

If you are angry about there being no Incursions up then don’t do the MOM. It seems like a really simple solution that no one grasps.

No I get that too, I guess what got me started was every time the MOM goes down it's the same 20 or 30 people in local/group chats bitching about it, but if they were in the fleet that did the deed the 20 or 30 people bitching are the ones that were in yesterdays MOM fleet.

I know it's a game, but sometimes the juvenile behaviour gets the best of me.

I cant hold on me when i read all this bullshit...

CCP please remove the Kundalini Manifest or the complete incursion content from HS.

After that we all have nothing to whine...

But i think CCP will not do this, many guys talking about sandbox and forget at the moment this is more harrassment for all players with the actual drama, they want fly incursion in HS.

Nobody is intrested as an HS Incursion Pilot to do Incursions in LS or 0.0, but TVP is going to a LS incursion and they was attaced by a Black Legion fleet and they loose the half of her Fleet

Guys in many ways are angry about the closing drama from HS incursions but hey, this is user generated content and nobody want this, but wait, why is no incursion in HS up and after one is new spawned, a fleet is forming up to play the penalty bar blue and closing the kundalini as fast as he can ?

I dont know but this is in hands from PILOTES and all pilotes they said nothing doing it wrong, remember its a sandbox and the leadership from the HS coms are the guys they close and this is wrong wrong and wrong, guys tell the FC "no dude, i dont wanna close this HS incursion" get the **** out of fleet or stay in there and do nothing but if you follow only the words from a leadership or an FC you doing it wrong...

Sandbox lives from players and you guys are the ones they can organize a STOP closing content but ORGANIZE this and dont whine!