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How did you get into EVE?

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Herzov
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-10-24 21:02:07 UTC
I started EVE online less than a week ago because I have been tired of the clicheed MMORPG meta gameplay grind for gear-wait for expac-grind for better gear than you grinded for so you can grind for better gear.
Now, I can't help but notice that my head is overloaded everytime I try to play due to the sheer amount of information that you have to absorb when you are starting out....
I was wondering if this is natural for every person that started out EVE or is it just me? I have read all the new player guides but still find myself being shocked at the starting curve of EVE compared to the traditional MMORPG...
I'm really digging the game at the moment but after a session I feel tired Sad

Thanks in advance for any additional imputs you guys may give :)
Baggo Hammers
#2 - 2013-10-24 21:03:32 UTC
It takes a bit but you will get it even if by osmosis. Try and focus on just one facet at a time.

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.

Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-10-24 21:06:13 UTC
You are not alone.

But really, just take it one thing at a time. You don't have to learn everything about everything all at once. Decide what you are interested in, do some research on the topic, and try it out. Ask a lot of questions and you'll usually get decent answers. I've met people that have been playing for years and still have no idea how to modify their overview window! We're all learning together :)

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Kyseth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-10-24 21:09:54 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:


I was waiting for this image to pop up. Big smile
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#5 - 2013-10-24 21:10:37 UTC  |  Edited by: NightCrawler 85
Edit; Someone beat me with the link Lol

Honestly if a new player comes and tells me that they find EVE "easy" and have little to no questions because they feel they have figured everything out within the first week i assume they will be gone by the first month.

The basic idea of EVE might be simple, but players who actually try to get into and understand the game will soon realize there is a lot more too it then "Lock and shoot that red thing on overview".

My only advice for you is really that you are patient.
Ask questions, then double check the information your giving, and then triple check it just to make sure you received accurate information Smile

As time goes on you will feel more comfortable with what your doing, and the basics of the game, and at that point you can start looking into the other aspects of the game that might not have seemed that interesting when you first started out.
But be prepared for the fact that you most likely will never feel like you know "everything". Most EVE players will know the basics from most play styles and professions, but i think even 10 year old vets still finds them self in situations that are new to them, or receive information that they had no knowledge about before Smile
Nick Starkey
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-10-24 21:15:17 UTC
Yeah, the game is pretty complex when you start out, mostly because a newer player still has no idea what he wants to pursue, and every eve related website you find usually focuses on different parts of the game, making it difficult to get a broader picture of the game. My advice is do things little by little. Experiment a bit of everything: missions, ninja salvaging, exploration, frigate sized pvp, industry, PI etc and see which you like. Investing a little SP on starting skills for each area is not a big deal so you can find out which parts of the game you like the most. When you find something you like, research a little into it and join a corp that operates in that area. If you don't like that particupar activity, try something else and repeat the process.

Here is a pretty good all around starter guide to the game: it will give you a basic idea of how most things work: http://www.isktheguide.com/downloads/ISK_Vol_1_Odyssey_1_0_16.zip

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Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#7 - 2013-10-24 21:49:38 UTC
I got into it from another streamer who is now on hiatus from the game. A lot of the learning curve I dealt with through stubbornness and wanting to actually give the game a shot. Rather than the normal, do trial > not understand > quit that I tried in the past.

As far as learning, don't try to learn everything all at once. You'll fry your brain. Focus on the things you like/want to do. Read up on it, go find user created tutorials, best practices, etc. Once you get that down, read up on another facet you're interested in.

Forgetting everything you know about MMOs really helps clear your head and helps you take in the information a little better. As compared to trying to relate anything you learn here to another MMO, because EVE isn't like any other MMO.

Twitch streamer and EVE NT tournament broadcaster.

Disastro
Wrecking Shots
#8 - 2013-10-25 00:25:00 UTC
Herzov wrote:
I started EVE online less than a week ago because I have been tired of the clicheed MMORPG meta gameplay grind for gear-wait for expac-grind for better gear than you grinded for so you can grind for better gear.
Now, I can't help but notice that my head is overloaded everytime I try to play due to the sheer amount of information that you have to absorb when you are starting out....
I was wondering if this is natural for every person that started out EVE or is it just me? I have read all the new player guides but still find myself being shocked at the starting curve of EVE compared to the traditional MMORPG...
I'm really digging the game at the moment but after a session I feel tired Sad

Thanks in advance for any additional imputs you guys may give :)


I played Everquest for many years before coming to eve online. EQOA specifically (the playstation online version of EQ which is pretty much PVE only).

Many years before that (yes i am this old) i used to play a pencil and paper space RPG called "Traveller" which i enjoyed at the time. It was more or less a dungeons and dragons in space sort of thing. Later they came out with a PC game called Megatraveller which was fun but was a solo player game not an online game. When EQOA began dying off in popularity i began looking for an online version of traveller which i did not find in my searches. Instead I came across EVE. It isnt quite the same but it is pretty close.

Basically it is an unstructured game where folks can do what they really want to good or bad. People are free to be evil or they are free to go be mr carebear. Its their choice.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#9 - 2013-10-25 00:45:33 UTC
The learning clif image never gets old!

The learning cliff is a LOT better than it used to be. Players keep comming out and creating offline content, DEVs keep improving the tutorial and interface, tiericide, etc, removing arbitrary differences. Eve UNI and and other corps are dedicated to helping newbies get the game. The help channel is always open and busy. Although there are a few people that are in help because they want to ridicule newbies :(

The main thing to watch out for is timeliness of any information you get. In EVE the game is constantly changing, so what was true a few years ago is often no longer true. So if an information page is undated, verify it somewhere else, if it is dated more than a year ago or mentions a specific expansion that is not current, check it again.

Help is usually better than local for asking for advice. In Help if someone gives you bad or outdated advice, someone else will usually speak up. Not so in local. Players might be snickering when the local helpful dude advises you to use alt-f4 to improve your warp speed.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-10-25 01:06:23 UTC
I had never heard about EVE until about 4 years ago when I was in the market for a new telescope.

After doing some searching around Google for a couple of days, I started get all kinds of space ads on website and what not.

One of the adds was a Google banner add for EVE.

Rest is history.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB

lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-10-25 04:03:28 UTC  |  Edited by: lollerwaffle
Montevius Williams wrote:
I had never heard about EVE until about 4 years ago when I was in the market for a new telescope.

lolwat

Weirdest "How I got into EVE" reason, ever. Lol
Mr Veda
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-10-25 14:53:50 UTC
Played other MMOs for years but never found one that had meaningful PVP

I think I've found it now :)

dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraḿ yauvanaḿ jarātathā dehāntara-prāptir dhīras tatra na muhyati

Tho'mas
Nerds United
#13 - 2013-10-25 18:08:29 UTC
One of my guildmates in WoW was talking about it on ventrilo. It sounded amazing, so the next day me and 3 other guildies made trial accounts and joined our friend on eve to try it out. He had played for a couple months so he was able to show us all the basics. Mining (before mining ships), basic combat, hunting people down with the directional scan. It was oh so frustrating those first few months. Especially when I tried to engage in pvp or do mission running in low sec (back when there were no level 4's in high sec) But through many friendly players, and even more ship losses I slowly learned the ropes and a few tricks to better my chances.

Haven't touched WoW in years, and I'm the only one left of the group of WoW guildies that came along with me, but I still love it.
Koki Ottic
Merry dancers in the sky
#14 - 2013-10-25 18:20:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Koki Ottic
Sometime during the first week of playing eve I started to take some notes, cause my brain was fried. Now 6 months down the road I'm on my third 200 page notepad, and for sure I have spent more time on eve related web sites than actually playing. You may think that this is negative, but eve has definitely reward me for the effort I have put in.

I'm not saying you need to take notes, it's just how I play the game.


Got into eve cause I got fed up waiting for David Braben to release Elite 4.
Mdes Ormand
Majestic Space Mining and Building Corporation
#15 - 2013-10-25 22:26:53 UTC
I read a lot about eve before and after i started the game. Sometimes it became so overwhelming but that is what i like about this game. l like learning and a game must be so detailed for me to play. If it is something like a tetris like just put something upon another or like those others tons of mmos killing meaninglessly creatures over and over, i dont have fun. Lots of people will tell you the same about this game that sometimes reading about eve is more fun than playing eve. And i started playing eve because of X3 games since they were the games i liked most back at the time. I searched an online version for them and i came across with an even better one Eve Online.

Ps i really liked that learning curve image :)
Lord Lojak
Unitum Investigationis et Progressus
#16 - 2013-10-26 00:07:03 UTC
i went to a friends house(known in game as Aviper) and he said "ooo check this game out" and he clicked the EVE launcher and later that day i had an account of my own.

also never completed the tutorial now that i think about it.
i got my knowledge here and there (some more costly than others) and most likely u will as well

if it wasnt for the bullet nobody would fear the the gun

Marzom Dread
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-10-26 11:33:12 UTC
I came to eve in 2010, after leaving FFXI (played it for 6 years or so). I had left FFXI for FFXIV but quickly realized it was garbage. I didn't want to return ti FFXI so I gave EVE a try and fell in love with it within minutes. I been here ever since, with multiple chars. I love the ruthlessness of EVE, and will only leave when the servers shutdown. Cool
Espenson
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-10-26 12:07:37 UTC
If I understand the post correctly you are asking what trajectory players have taken to make sense of the game as a whole. As has been said the key is to establish a short/medium term goal and focus on that. Since I'm a player that's started, left and then rejoined more than once I can outline two approaches that worked for me.

1) The first time I wanted to try small gang PVP. So, having completed the tutorial and earned enough ISK to lose a few ships I fitted a few basic frigate solo setups and went into losec looking for trouble. I duly died in an instant but convoed my killer who invited me to join his corp.

2) I resubbed recently and decided to try the new exploration system. Thus I focussed my energies on learning what skills I needed, training them, locating a quiet area to practise them and basing myself there.

PM me if either of these scenarios appeals and you want more advice.
Inignort Err
SchmeckTel Group
#19 - 2013-10-28 20:07:45 UTC
I try out nearly every MMO and back in 2009 myself and a friend who played SecondLife were chatting about EVE and decided to try it. I was hooked right away but during the first go-around I couldn't settle on one or two things and eventually left in frustration. I came back earlier this year and have a better appreciation of focusing on one thing at a time (per toon) and the importance of developing skills.

I'm also not concerned about getting killed this time and have a PvP toon so I can do some of the killing too. It's a nice balance that will keep me in here for a long time.

Cliffs -- focus on one thing at a time until you get comfortable (like everyone else ITT says).
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#20 - 2013-10-30 13:06:45 UTC
Disastro wrote:

Many years before that (yes i am this old) i used to play a pencil and paper space RPG called "Traveller" which i enjoyed at the time. It was more or less a dungeons and dragons in space sort of thing. Later they came out with a PC game called Megatraveller which was fun but was a solo player game not an online game. When EQOA began dying off in popularity i began looking for an online version of traveller which i did not find in my searches. Instead I came across EVE. It isnt quite the same but it is pretty close.


Traveller FTW! I think of High Guard every time I log in :-)

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson

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