Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yes im in the wrong game just for sugesting something new and totally random, I SEE IT! its all clear to me now.

Pretty much this.

You can give players limitless possibilities... all the customization possible... but once they have established which variables are the "most important" in which situations they wont care about all the fits and ship stats available to them. All that matters is "winning."

And if you are a cynical like me... you'll see people doing this out in the real world as well.

You can achieve virtually the same effect this would have on EVE by unsubbing and never playing it again.

You don't understand how EVE stores ships obviously, I suggest going and researching about packing of objects & how EVE handles them.

Bumping a bad Idea to get it some more Scrutiny and possibly some Trolls.

But on a serious note...

Certain combinations of slots, bonuses, and modules make ships good. Other combinations make them very, very bad. The proposed random nature of this would actually mean that the majority of ships that pop out would by unflyable trash. Of the remainder, some would operate exactly like ships do now (except with new skins) and some few would be hilariously overpowered, fetching a huge premium given the amount of time/effort required to get just one into production.

That's no way to run a game. I don't mind a little random; I do both exploration and invention. But this is more like playing the lottery.

Not to mention the ships themselves. If the proposed mechanism goes through they'd end up half hangar ornaments, 25% pants-on-head mission runners, and maybe 25% pvp/AT fodder. You know that repper bonused, resist bonused logistics battlecruiser you could make? Yeah, that would be stupid powerful.

I don't mind some variety and never really mind some new ships entering the fray. I'd rather like to see the existing subsystems for T3s sorted and balanced and then a few more added. But making every ship a massive die roll? Count me out. I prefer balance over shiny any day of the week. And at the end of the day everyone does whether they're willing to admit it or not.

I actually suggested a player driven method for adding new ships a few months ago.

From CCp's standpoint, unless all the ships become the same, you can't have the players mix and match the styles they like and maintain any reasonable balance. People will quickly find the "best" combination and that will be the end of all the game play. Then everyone will fly the same min max set up.

In a similar vein however, the new SOE ships are coming. If CCP wanted to do something interesting, they would release a fully nerfed model that would work but isn't completely optomized. A more advanced model can be "discovered" through research and invention. It could have a variety of different customizations. The more advanced model could have more bandwidth or an built in heat sink. It could develop damage bonuses to medium lasers or more armor tanking bonuses per level, whatever. CCP controls the amount that can be actually researched and so they can control the ultimate designs while still having the ability to control the balance.

This allows the players to make choices and to make use manufacturing and research and other players to cooperate to make the ship.