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What? Perhaps I am used to it, but I love the radial menu. I used it all the time. But, it also depends on what is going on and what happens to be the fastest at that time.

if you make a dev blog for this - perhaps you could make a simple youtube demonstration of you using these features?

I say this because

1) im not that smart

2) a lot of people have been using this feature for a while and might need some "monkey see monkey do" to change some habits - I've observed recently people discovering new(ish) usability features from the last few releases as they aren't visually apparent they've been enhanced

+1

Especially the "more in space" functionality from the Watchlist window.

Five more features I'd love to see:

(1) 'swap position with me': someone in a command position can swap positions with a subordinate

(2) bugfix: Currently, you can't drag someone to the bottom* of the watchlist - you have to drag them to the second last position and then drag the other person up. (* I might have this the wrong way round, and you can't drag to the top - not running EvE at the moment).

(3) split fleet: select a wing or squad and create a new fleet based on that wing or squad, moving all current members

(4) merge fleet: this one would be trickier, but it would be wonderful to be able to join one fleet into another, adding squads to an existing wing or wings to an existing fleet. I suspect the interaction would go:
- boss of "big" fleet creates advert, and provides it to boss of other fleet
- boss of joining fleet clicks on advert, and gets message "you are already part of a fleet - do you want your fleet to join?"
- if OK, boss of "big" fleet gets message: "X is trying to merge his/her fleet of N members / squads / wings into your fleet. Please select a squad / wing / fleet for them to join" and a menu box with the various fleet slots and OK / reject buttons. They select the appropriate container and hit OK, and the other fleet is imported.

(5) Move entire squads between wings ("move squad to" option like "move member to"), though the mass drag function might allow this.

HEY! This is my thing! CCP did a thing of mine! *does a dance*

I hearby second/third/whatever the motions to continue adding more functionality to this, specifically (off the top of my head)
- Free move on/off gets saved
- Fleet settings (allow corp members, allow alliance, etc) get saved
- Fleet advert (name/display) get saved
- MOTD would be nice
- I think renaming squads/removing/renaming wings would be good. I.E. loaded setup should be EXACTLY the same as the saved setup.
- Allow exporting/importing saved fleets

Seriously though, this is going to save SO MUCH CLICKING! Thank you!

That's your prerogative. Very few PvPers (afaict) use it for PvP.

And the problem with Karkur's position, is that she isn't giving us a choice on what the situation is. She's saying, if you want that functionality, you can ONLY get it from the radial menu.

Which as you also understand, isn't the right tool for every job.

I get the obsession with the radial menu. It's for touch interfaces in the future. Unfortunately, Eve isn't a game where the finer points of piloting and combat can be accomplished with a touch screen like interface.

I suspect our esteemed CCP colleagues don't play this game at that level or in those situations that they would immediately recognize the sort of feedback I am attempting to share.

Awesome stuff! +1

Is it possible to have an option to 'warp fleet' but the warp doesn't happen til the last/slowest ship is aligned and upto speed rdy to warp?

I'm sorry for trying to help you by telling you what's available.

I know not everyone uses the Radial menu, and that's fine, that's you choice. But now I'm going to try to help you again, and I'm not being obsessed about the Radial Menu....
You can set the delay to max, so it won't be popping up constantly. You can then have a shortcut (I use SHIFT), that bypasses the shortcut and brings up the Radial menu right away on the object you are trying to orbit or whatever.

To be honest, I'm really hesitant to add any sort of dragging to the overview, I feel like we need to think it through a little bit better what it would mean Game Design wise (would that mean I could drag people to chat to call targets? would we want that at all? also, does it hurt overview performance? etc.)

What you just said inspired an idea.

Idea : create an alternate "Fleet History" "window" when in fleet that pops up with a visual of the target being called as a GUI item, resembling a locked target (but obviously different) so that there is a nice clear and easy to click indication of the fleet target. Also, for people who want logistics they get a similar thing except for shields being called.

The problem is that the fleet history place and line entries are like the most horrible UN-immersive part of fleet combat. Who wants to stare at a list of scrolling text entries to find the targets / friendlies they need to rep?

I understand this is a game design issue - but that would be a solid UI action to tackle. Also, that little window area could be used to drop things such as "warp to" from celestial, targets from the overview lets say, and so on. It would have quick actionables that would facilitate fleet targets/coordination.

I'll do a mockup.

Only thing I forgot to add was prioritization. But, it would show range to you (so you can prioritize the prioritized targets for yourself). I didn't bother, but I UNDERSTAND that you can not show the healthbars on all the prioritized targets due to server load issues and scalabiity - so you can remove that. However, I'm confident you can show the other information. Hopefully this gives you some ideas of your own.

http://i.imgur.com/Z5wPfjS.jpg