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Navy Frigates?

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#1 - 2013-10-23 17:10:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Thaddeus Eggeras
Question CCP why are their 2 different navy cruisers and navy battleships for each race but only one navy frigate for each race? Doesn't make a whole lot of since. Let's go CCP and get a new navy frigate for each race. Who's with me?
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-10-23 17:19:41 UTC
There is already too many ships.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Zarnak Wulf
Amarrian Vengeance
Team Amarrica
#3 - 2013-10-23 17:27:15 UTC
Way too many frigs. Faction destroyers or dreads I could get behind though.
Rekkr Nordgard
Borderland Militia
Zero Hedge Union
#4 - 2013-10-23 17:28:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Rekkr Nordgard
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Question CCP why are their 2 different navy cruisers and navy battleships for each race but only one navy frigate for each race? Doesn't make a whole lot of since. Let's go CCP and get a new navy frigate for each race. Who's with me?


As an active participant in faction warfare where navy frigs see regular use, I support this idea and/or product.

Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Way too many frigs. Faction destroyers or dreads I could get behind though.


oooooohhhhh, I like that, yes to navy dessies.
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#5 - 2013-10-23 17:34:53 UTC
There does need to be navy destroyers like they did with battlecruisers, but they do need to make another navy frigate for each race, and made pirate battlecruisers and/or priate destroyers.

Too many ships? There can NEVER be too many ships. slap yourself!
Battle BV Master
Bacon Never Dies
#6 - 2013-10-23 17:41:59 UTC
The new SOE ships will add another frig and cruiser. Dessies are always overlooked. Faction/Pirate dessies before anything else I'd say at this point in time...
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#7 - 2013-10-23 17:57:19 UTC
I'm going with another navy frigate for each race and pirate destroyer for each pirate race able to fly.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2013-10-23 18:10:51 UTC
I'd dig another line of faction frigs.

Could be half AF half T1 like the current ones are half inti half T1

would be cool.


Faction dessies i could also get behind. Fast ones! (Make sure that none of them can fit lml's though)

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#9 - 2013-10-23 18:33:30 UTC
I like that fnavy frigate that is between AF and T1, good idea!
UmbraIra
Plundering Penguins
Solyaris Chtonium
#10 - 2013-10-23 21:07:12 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
There is already too many ships.


There can never be too many ships
Ginger Barbarella
#11 - 2013-10-23 21:33:13 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Way too many frigs. Faction destroyers or dreads I could get behind though.


Faction dessies would be sooo much win... Twisted

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-10-23 23:02:30 UTC
UmbraIra wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
There is already too many ships.


There can never be too many ships

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM59Yw1vYvA

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Humang
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#13 - 2013-10-24 05:52:29 UTC
Give me a Navy Merlin and I would fly nothing else.

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-10-24 07:54:45 UTC
Battle BV Master wrote:
Dessies are always overlooked...


Straight Really? ... the 4 new ones we recently got was an overlook?

No Worries

lollerwaffle
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-10-24 09:55:36 UTC
On the plus side, Navy frigs have their own unique ship models, unlike cruisers and up, which are basically reskins.
Berluth Luthian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-10-24 17:28:27 UTC
What niche would you put faction destroyers in?

Destroyers are used in a lot of different ways. They are a quick and efficient jump in DPS for missioners. They are a nice cheap long range kitey alpha counter to shiney cruiser roams for FW.

What if you made them THE planetary bombardment ship with a little bit of versitility buff to their turrets. So none of them would be missile ships.

-Maybe give hybrids/projectiles a significant ammo reload reduction (bombardment role bonus).
-Reduce their sig radii by a bit.
-Increase their electronics base stats.
-Remove hybrid/projectile damage bonus to destroyers while leaving remaining optimal/tracking bonuses.
-add a capacitor reduction to racial EWAR modules (no strength increase though).

Basically they wouldn't fit tackle mods but more be a sort of support destroyer, or an anti-support destroyer.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#17 - 2013-10-24 17:40:44 UTC
they haven't even rebalanced pirate faction frigs yet. Adding new stuff without fixing old is just twice the work later.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#18 - 2013-10-24 19:57:19 UTC
The patch after Rubicon is going to rebalance all faction ships, I bet CCP is also planning on bring out a new faction ship too. I'd like to see that as a new navy frigate, and maybe a huge new pirate line"Thukker ship". They just did SOE Amarr/Gal, so Thukker could be Cald/Min. Just an idea but would be great to see, and it's the only hole left to fill with the pirate faction (Cald/Min). Fast like min with shield boost bonus, and maybe missile bonues for Cald, and role bonuses be like the Worm, Gila, RS role bonuses.

Role 50% to velocity of missiles
Cald 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level
Min 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount

And be around the speed of Navy stabber

Just an idea.


GordonO
BURN EDEN
#19 - 2013-10-24 20:34:18 UTC
I think the lack of a pirate faction cruiser and Battleship bonused for missiles should be addressed first. This should have been done before adding the SOE ships.

... What next ??

Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#20 - 2013-10-24 20:36:33 UTC
Gordon I agree

Thukker priates ships with missiles LONG over do!!!!
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